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Look for example at the Ivanchuk-Dominguez game (2009). This is even more drastic. Ivanchuk was in a winning position but in time trouble he was knocking pieces down. Feeling bad about the knocked down pieces he offered a draw in a completely winning position. You might say that that was OTB and was different but I hope some of you get my point about fair-play.

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itsmedaniel wrote:

I don't find it necessarily honourable to use the clock like that when the opponent is disconnecting. I would've taken the draw. You're not using the clock evenly like that, it was unfair because of the bad connection. However I don't think you can say that this was definitely a won game for you.

It might have not been won but surely it wasn't lost.

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Everyone on here must have lost on time in a winning position.

Its part of the game. 

I think its fairly bad sportsmanship to offer a draw.

Just accept you lost and try to play quicker next time, or choose a different time limit.

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Snowyqueen wrote:
Krestez wrote:

Look for example at the Ivanchuk-Dominguez game (2009). This is even more drastic. Ivanchuk was in a winning position but in time trouble he was knocking pieces down. Feeling bad about the knocked down pieces he offered a draw in a completely winning position. You might say that that was OTB and was different but I hope some of you get my point about fair-play.

Since you've already made up your mind, why did you bother to ask us what we thought? 

I strongly think I am right, but I am open to opinions. That's why I opened the thread, but I am yet to be convinced that my judgment is wrong.

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Ruby-Fischer wrote:

Everyone on here must have lost on time in a winning position.

Its part of the game. 

I think its fairly bad sportsmanship to offer a draw.

Just accept you lost and try to play quicker next time, or choose a different time limit.

Exactly. This type of situation comes with the time control.

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White, not Black, is better around move 45.

This being said, it's still a very easy draw. I would offer a draw on a low-on-time opponent, but it is my choice, and I would not be offended if someone else did not.

I would be offended if my opponent refused the draw in king+bishop against king+knight (no pawns), for instance.

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Ruby-Fischer wrote:

Everyone on here must have lost on time in a winning position.

Its part of the game. 

I think its fairly bad sportsmanship to offer a draw.

Just accept you lost and try to play quicker next time, or choose a different time limit.

I didn't lose on time. I still had few seconds but I made a blunder (last move) because I was blitzing my moves.

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Irontiger wrote:

White, not Black, is better around move 45.

This being said, it's still a very easy draw. I would offer a draw on a low-on-time opponent, but it is my choice, and I would not be offended if someone else did not.

I would be offended if my opponent refused the draw in king+bishop against king+knight (no pawns), for instance.

How is white exactly better on move 45 when he's a pawn down? He's fighting for the draw. Objectively speaking, it might be a dead draw, but it's clearly not better for white.

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Yeah, i agree with you. That was fairly uncool of your opponent.

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Snowyqueen wrote:

Also, can we find a slightly less gynophobic word to describe poor behavior at the chessaboard?

I agree with SnowyQueen. There are young players on this site. Let's set a better example for them.

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Bluecavebear wrote:

Snowyqueen wrote:

Also, can we find a slightly less gynophobic word to describe poor behavior at the chessaboard?

I agree with SnowyQueen. There are young players on this site. Let's set a better example for them.

USA, where you can find the most innocent kids in the world, not trying to be stereotypical or something...

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People continue to try to enforce their own moral standards on their opponents. You have no right to complain. To win you need to mate your opponent before your time expires. Most bullet games are won purely on time. I am not 16 anymore and lose a lot of better positions on time. It is part of the game. Just learn to play faster or like me smile when you lose knowing that you were winning. I agree that there is too much cursing here.

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Actually, for most of the endgame white had you, were were doing good for awhile until you slipped.

 

2...d5 is the best defense against the Grand Prix Attack, though your move was still good.

6...Nf3 there's no need to force a decision regarding the bishop.  He'll either trade there anyway or lose a tempo moving the bishop back.

11...Ng4 looks like a patzer move, but here it threatens to trade knight for bishop, increases tension on his side of the board, and removes a defender of d4.  If he moves it back 11...Ng4 12.Bc1,Bf5 with development, or 12.Re1,0-0  (12...Nxe3? 13.Rxe3,cxd4 14.Nxd4 the knight is very strong and the king is pinned, white is better here never give your opponent a strong piece if it can be avoided) with a good game.

 

14.Bxf6 trading more active piece for a less active one, bishops are strong on long diagonals and generally worth more than knights anyway, white should have tried 14.c4 chipping away at the center.

15...c5 would keep a knight off d4.

21...Rb8 forcing white to make concessions to avoid losing the b-pawn to the pin: 21...Rb8 22.c4,d4 with a solid passed pawn or 21...Rb1 22.Nxc5,Rxb2 with a rook on the seventh and the c-pawn is quite vulnerable. 

25...h6? hands white a clear advantage, the position isn't that easy, but 25...Kf6! prepares ...g5, giving the king more space to move.

25...h6 was the right idea, but wrong supporting piece.  Kings need to be active in the endgame.Now white has Nf3-Ne5 and stares at the g6 hole.

30...Ra5? looks like a reasonable defensive move, but it's too passive, now white can exploit the pin with 31.b4,a4 32.b5 with a passed pawn, and yours is more easily contained. 

31.Ke3 is where white holds his advantage and wins due to his superior minor piece (nice, centralized knight blockading black's pawn against black's bishop with no real immediate targets)  structure, kingside space, passed pawn, and king activity. 

38.gxh6? was a huge slip for white because now black's bishop has an accessible target, black has excellent drawing chances here.  White needed to keep the tension and g and h-pawns near eachother to form a strong kingside force and potentially create an outside passer.

38.b6! the knight and pawn work together to shut out black's king, and black now must blockade with Bb7 39.g6 bolting down the weakness, black's bishop can't plausibly target these pawns 39...Bc8 though he can try 40.f5,exf5 41.Kf4! making way for the white king and the win.

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the game is a complete draw, can somebody show me why does h5 win?

I play 44.b7

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Krestez a écrit :
Bluecavebear wrote:

Snowyqueen wrote:

Also, can we find a slightly less gynophobic word to describe poor behavior at the chessaboard?

I agree with SnowyQueen. There are young players on this site. Let's set a better example for them.

USA, where you can find the most innocent kids in the world, not trying to be stereotypical or something...

I strongly believe you're a troll, but I'm open to opinions but not really.

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Black had winning chances with 43...h5 as the passed pawn is a huge advantage, and white needs to spend a move getting the knight away.  43...h5 44.Ne5,h4 45.Ke3,Bc6 and resources are diverted away from the kingside and the black king is closer to the pawns, the black h-pawn is the winning diversion for black. 



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ivandh wrote:
Krestez a écrit :
Bluecavebear wrote:

Snowyqueen wrote:

Also, can we find a slightly less gynophobic word to describe poor behavior at the chessaboard?

I agree with SnowyQueen. There are young players on this site. Let's set a better example for them.

USA, where you can find the most innocent kids in the world, not trying to be stereotypical or something...

I strongly believe you're a troll, but I'm open to opinions but not really.

Why do you think I'm a troll exactly? I disregard every troll on the site and now people think I'm one?? Ok, my last response with the American kids might have been an inappropiate joke, but I am not a troll. And this thread is not a troll thread.

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Don't ask others, ya should ask ya self (deeper inside ya heart) *if it was yar opponent who running out of time (because of connetion problem,thinking too long, etc. ) would ya offer her/him a draw ?

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Oh my the word douchebag!  Someone get me the smelling salts because I do believe I have the vapors! 

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pepli222 wrote:

Don't ask others, ya should ask ya self (deeper inside ya heart) it was yar opponent who running out of time (because of connetion problem,thinking too long, etc. ) would ya offer her/him a draw ?

In a standard game like this, yes, definitely. In a blitz I don't think so since time is a big factor when it comes to winning.