Why are there no websites willing to give out free information?

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Somebodysson
Ziryab wrote:...My efforts to stimulate such discussion here and on other sites where I have played has been almost wholly unsuccesful. 

I have some ideas why that might be. But I've already shared those with you. Telling people they're dead wrong, having to have the last word, being sarcastic, aggressive, defensive, argumentative, needing to be right, defending a position to your last dying breath no matter how untenable the position, being  petty...those are not good strategies to use to stimulate discussion. 

There are people on chess.com who have been very successful in stimulating discussion. They use different strategies than you do. 

A change in strategy may produce a change in results. But it will take lots of work. Lots. 

Ziryab
Somebodysson wrote:
Ziryab wrote:...My efforts to stimulate such discussion here and on other sites where I have played has been almost wholly unsuccesful. 

I have some ideas why that might be. But I've already shared those with you. Telling people they're dead wrong, having to have the last word, being sarcastic, aggressive, defensive, argumentative, needing to be right, defending a position to your last dying breath no matter how untenable the position, being  petty...those are not good strategies to use to stimulate discussion. 

There are people on chess.com who have been very successful in stimulating discussion. They use different strategies than you do. 

A change in strategy may produce a change in results. But it will take lots of work. Lots. 

Thank you. My therapist has read your posts and tells me that she spent years listening to me whine about my parents, my siblings, my children, and my coworkers before she was able to get the insight into my character that you have achieved in two evenings. You have a gift.

Your gift may save me $1000s in my therapy. I sense that the next turn on my theraputic path may be towards recovery. Thanks.

She also warned me against mentioning substance abuse to you. She suspects that your drunken rants, insightful though they are, hint at a form of derangement that may be dangerous. There's already evidence of a tendency towards cyberstalking.

nameno1had
GuavaberryGuy wrote:

Hi all, my name is Adam Foltin but my handle here is Guavaguy and I'm a huge believer in the power of opensource. Why is it that there is no website on the internet(The most powerful information database of the modern age) that has what would be considered "too much chess information". I think that if there was a website that operated much like a combination of Chess Mentor and Codeacademy it would be a great way to get beginners into chess and help them learn more without having to pay for every little bit of information out there. I understand that there is no such thing as a free meal, but there should be a way for people who have access to less to be able to learn more about chess. If Chess.com allowed more information to beginners, the average rating on the website would rise. If I get my chance, mark my words I will be giving out free chess information, even if its only a lesson a day. Please, tell me i'm not alone in this.

Not sure if it has been mentioned yet but, it would take quite a storage capacity for the greatest compilation of chess information the world has ever known. The likelyhood that a venture like it could be free isn't very good, unless a billionaire who loves chess, has nothing better to do with his time and money.

jburkhart28
richie_and_oprah wrote:
netzach wrote:

Enough free information here and on YouTube to help most players progress at chess.

The last thing those of av.site-rating need is dodgy lessons, books or computer software. Isn't going to help one bit.

i disagree (respectfully) and here is why

unless people are good to begin with they do not have the acumen to discern good from bad advice   .. most of the free stuff on the web is garbage and some people even dole out bad avice on purpose as some form of joke 

Kingcusher, matojelic, onlinechesslessons, GM Yasser Seirawan, thechesswebsite are all on youtube and I think the information they give is extremely valuable for beginners along with Chessgames.com. I hate to be a lacky for other sites, because Chess.com has the best personal feedback of any site I've seen.

Ziryab

Kingscrusher's videos are terrific, and he seems to add at least one new one every day. He has analysis of classic games, his own online blitz, the development of chess theory, and select openings. He sometimes includes guests who are stronger players than he is (he is a British Regional Master).

iamdeafzed
Ziryab wrote:

Kingscrusher's videos are terrific, and he seems to add at least one new one every day. He has analysis of classic games, his own online blitz, the development of chess theory, and select openings. He sometimes includes guests who are stronger players than he is (he is a British Regional Master).

My opinion is Kingscrusher is 'hit and miss' in terms of his videos...some quite good, most are at least ok (if not always terribly instructional), and some mediocre.

The ones that tend toward the mediocre end are:
1.) his first 20 or so videos (if I'm remembering correctly), where his commentary is so garbled as to be practically inaudible
2.) any of his videos where he wasn't commenting on relatively high-rated players (e.g. commentary on some of his own games...didn't care for 'em myself). Include any videos where he's commenting on his friend's blitz games as part of this category.
3.) any of his videos where instead of doing some analysis himself, he turns on Houdini and just mindlessly rattles off its top choices for each move that was played in whatever game he's covering.

His earlier videos also tend to gloss over things a lot more since he was dealing with the typical 10 minute time constraint from youtube. His later videos are much more thorough.

Ziryab

I've watched a few with very uneven sound quality. These were probably mostly early ones. I agree about overuse of Houdini in some videos.

Somebodysson

I guess on a forum where Ziryab is posting, everyone has the chance to have the second-to-last word; Ziryab will ensure that he always has the last word. I guess his thinking is 'if I overwhelm them with my ever-present and persistent postings, they'll give up trying to follow what other people are saying, and they'll start to think that there is no one else here on chess.com; I am the only one, so I must be the only one who has anything to say,  so now they'll visit my blog and make me feel important.'

Ziryab, you must REALlly want people to visit your blog. You must feel a strong need for that, to validate you, to make you feel important. Wow. It must suck being you. 

There should be rules against people using the chess.com forums to advertise their blogs. I'll speak to administration about it. Any forum that Ziryab fancies using as his personal marketing tool will get taken over by him to advertise his blog. 

I'm on the case. Richie and Oprah called it fameballing. I call it misuse of chess.com's servers, and disrespect of the good people of chess.com.

nameno1had
Somebodysson wrote:

I guess on a forum where Ziryab is posting, everyone has the chance to have the second-to-last word; Ziryab will ensure that he always has the last word. I guess his thinking is 'if I overwhelm them with my ever-present and persistent postings, they'll give up trying to follow what other people are saying, and they'll start to think that there is no one else here on chess.com; I am the only one, so I must be the only one who has anything to say,  so now they'll visit my blog and make me feel important.'

Ziryab, you must REALlly want people to visit your blog. You must feel a strong need for that, to validate you, to make you feel important. Wow. It must suck being you. 

There should be rules against people using the chess.com forums to advertise their blogs. I'll speak to administration about it. Any forum that Ziryab fancies using as his personal marketing tool will get taken over by him to advertise his blog. 

I'm on the case. Richie and Oprah called it fameballing. I call it misuse of chess.com's servers, and disrespect of the good people of chess.com.

I noticed he likes to block people in his own threads so it looks like the other person gave up and his assertion must have been the right one...a true troll and sore loser does that...guess what else I have noticed sore losers end up doing at chess sites...?

Dietmar

Aside from cute posts containing thinly veiled insinuations, nameno1had, what do you have ever contributed to chess.com or chess in general? Members may or may not agree with Ziryab's style but at least he has a record of accomplishment. How about you?

nameno1had
Dietmar wrote:

Aside from cute posts containing thinly veiled insinuations, nameno1had, what do you have ever contributed to chess.com or chess in general? Members may or may not agree with Ziryab's style but at least he has a record of accomplishment. How about you?

First of all records can be fraudulent, second what they say about a person is subjective, 3rd, I didn't realize that you had to be a "contributor" (theory was pretty well established before I started playing) to chess, to have anything relevant to share here, 4thly, "thinly veiled insulations", a subjective term, you are trying to use to tear one's observations and mentionings, of factual occurances, won't change what is true. Also, considering the reliability of identity, you could be him.

...last but not least and most importantly, I don't have to qualify myself to you...

qinns

This looks like smearing faeces on the fecal background...

arosbishop

There is a lot of free information for beginners and other at chesscafe'.com. Just look at free monthly contributions from a lot of authors. And there is an Archive full of their articles since years back and it is free.

Kansha

Please remember to be relevant helpful and nice!

Thanks guys!

Scottrf
Kansha wrote:

Please remember to be relevant helpful and nice!

Thanks guys!


I think you should muzzle nameno for constantly throwing cheating accusations around. A guy of his strength would never have a clue.

Mr_Tarkanian

Kansha, I'm over 40.  I'm no longer relevant.  :(

ConnorMacleod_151
Kansha wrote:

Please remember to be relevant helpful and nice!

Thanks guys!

Thats my line... u stole it :(((

Mr_Tarkanian
ConnorMacleod_151 wrote:
Kansha wrote:

Please remember to be relevant helpful and nice!

Thanks guys!

Thats my line... u stole it :(((

Haha

ConnorMacleod_151

Please be relevant, helpful & Nice!

Ziryab

Scottrf wrote:

Kansha wrote:

Please remember to be relevant helpful and nice!

Thanks guys!

I think you should muzzle nameno for constantly throwing cheating accusations around. A guy of his strength would never have a clue.