It's never going to be enough for some people. You can't make everyone happy.
Why can't you figure out how to thwart malicious disconnectors?
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@wanmokewan So if we can't achieve perfection, why even try to improve the system, even though there seem to be straightforeward ways to achieve substantial improvement? I'll remind you that while you've raised some good alternatives to resolving it, that this topic keeps being raised over and over because plenty of people like me don't share your attitude and would like to see chess.com try to find a way of dealing with it. I don't expect perfection, but I would like to not have this happen three or four times a day or more. It's bad enough I spend as much time as I do on blitz but to spend time sitting around because someone is being a jerk is time I don't want to spend.
now_and_zen wrote:
I pay chess.com to play chess
Actually, playing is free. You are paying for the other benefits.
This really is not a solvable problem since anyone can register and play for free. If they have been restricted, they can just come back under another account.
It would probbly be much better, especially for your blood pressure, to find something to do with that 2.5 minutes.
BTW - In case you didn't notice, you've spent many times that time commenting on this silly thread.
kleelof, he's the OP
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
kleelof, he's the OP
Yes, I know.
keelof wrote: "BTW - In case you didn't notice, you've spent many times that time commenting on this silly thread."
@keelof - I don't get your point. I am responding to replies in a thread I started on the subject, so it makes the fact that I don't like being disconnected on randomly at any game any time moot? You think those are the same thing? I'd be game to only play paying members or members with a good disconnect rating if there were such a thing.
keelof wrote: "This really is not a solvable problem since anyone can register and play for free. If they have been restricted, they can just come back under another account. "
You guys are always saying that the disconnect problem, that could be resolved much better, is unsolveable. Just because you're not into it or can't figure something out don't write off the possibilities so quickly. The laws of flotation were not discovered by commitment to the sinking of things. Where there's a will there's a way.
now_and_zen wrote:
try to find a way of dealing with it
The best way is to tell whiners and complainers to take their bitter tears elsewhere. Speed chess world is riddled with A-holes and social nut cases. If you can't tolerate the environment the way most other normal people do, then for your own health and the comfort of people who have to be in the vicinity of your overwrought weeping self, find a more civilized chess site to play on.
Or not. The thrashing about and gnashing of teeth you do is fun for some of us to watch. (Not me of course, I agonize over your suffering and have to strive mightly to keep from throwning myself over the guardrail in a fit of helpless and sympathetic empathy.)
You need to be alleviated of your suffering so again I recommend you find greener pastures or hold your breath until you pass out.
now_and_zen wrote:
keelof wrote: "BTW - In case you didn't notice, you've spent many times that time commenting on this silly thread."
@keelof - I don't get your point. I am responding to replies in a thread I started on the subject, so it makes the fact that I don't like being disconnected on randomly at any game any time moot? You think those are the same thing? I'd be game to only play paying members or members with a good disconnect rating if there were such a thing.
keelof wrote: "This really is not a solvable problem since anyone can register and play for free. If they have been restricted, they can just come back under another account. "
You guys are always saying that the disconnect problem, that could be resolved much better, is unsolveable. Just because you're not into it or can't figure something out don't write off the possibilities so quickly. The laws of flotation were not discovered by commitment to the sinking of things. Where there's a will there's a way.
You can't solve your own problem of getting bent out of shape over a few sore losers, so you feel it is up to Chess.com to solve the problem for you?
BTW - Malicious means to do something with the intent of causing you harm. I don't think these people mean to cause you harm.
@kleelof It's not just me. There are lot of people who are pissed off about the intentional disconnectors. The problem happens all the time. So if it doesn't bother you, fine, but a lot of people agree with me and would like chess.com to do what they can to deal with that particular problem, because it affects the quality of the experience we pay to enjoy. So you disagree with me, that's your choice. I don't think either of us is going to change our opinion, so no point in going in circles.
now_and_zen wrote:
@kleelof It's not just me. There are lot of people who are pissed off about the intentional disconnectors. The problem happens all the time.
Well, these disconnectors aren't going to stop disconnection, and, according to you, Chess.com is not capable/interested in doing something about it, so what's the point of crying about it?
Has V3 said anything about it?
I am not really concerned about this, but I've said before there are sites where you can choose the option "who disconnects loses" (and it's immediate) before playing. Could be a solution?
The biggest problem with disconnectors tends to be their opponents' unwillingness to accept that a game may last for any amount of time within its preset and accepted by both sides limit. If you don't expect (or at least accept) that your opponent is going to play 30 minutes, don't create or join a 30 minute game. If you create or join such a game and you have a winning position with your opponent going into time trouble or disconnecting, be happy that you'd not need to put much of an effort to win. Otherwise reduce the time control.
GIex wrote:
The biggest problem with disconnectors tends to be their opponents' unwillingness to accept that a game may last for any amount of time within its preset and accepted by both sides limit. If you don't expect (or at least accept) that your opponent is going to play 30 minutes, don't create or join a 30 minute game. If you create or join such a game and you have a winning position with your opponent going into time trouble or disconnecting, be happy that you'd not need to put much of an effort to win. Otherwise reduce the time control.
Sorry, simple and logical solutions are not allowed. 
Yes, in a way much of the thrill aura of chess comes from not being practical. After all if one doesn't blame his opponents, it would have been much more tedious to compete. But in a way it's even more exciting to not be simple and logical when you do know that you are not simple and logical, and when it's put to the attention of other people. For example, imagine Wesley So not making notes or Varuzhan Akobian not complaining about it.
Bottom line is it is against chess.com's policy to abandon games or disconnect, and it is an annoyance. Further chess.com posts stern warnings about it frequently. So far, the people replying say, to hell with doing anything about it (even if something can be done), let's let thousands or millions of live chess players all repeatedly endure disconnect abusers pointlessly because that's how tournament chess works or something. Meanwhile over and over again people get annoyed by it, leave nasty notes in violator's profiles, and come here to complain.
If I ran this site and saw so much displeasure at a problem I could solve I would probably try to do something to fix it. That's just good business. It's not like fixing the problem would pose a downside for the people who are saying that everyone who plays blitz should just figure out a way to put up with it and should be tolerant, and get a new hobby, during or in lieu of chess entirely. It would be a win for the site all the way around to come up with better resolutions, and so it probably should happen.
On average there are maybe 14,000 live players 24 hours a day.
Most popular is blitz chess. Probably 3/0, but with some playing 60|0 lets be generous and say the average length of a game is 30 minutes.
That's 14,000 games an hour or 336,000 games every day (not counting correspondence where people use vacation to stall for weeks or months).
An average game is probably around 60 half moves. Lets say you set up the engine to analyze 1 second per move. That's at least 1 minute of analysis per game.
With 1400 minutes in a day, you'd need to dedicate resources equivalent to 24 average computers to this job.
Plus I imagine recording the time stamp and requesting info on every game after it's played, and flagging users, would slow the site down.
Its still not good enough. They claim its noted in the users account but where's the accountability? If a player disconnects in a losing position once or more per day for a week, their acocunt should be banned.