Why Chess is a Waste of Time and Intelligence – Yes

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hailelmo1

Please... provide us with some activities that is not a waste of intelligence... please dont say studying the bible 

bong711

 

Ratiti

Good philosophi. To get  obsessed is bad. IT should be played after all other duties are finished.

GM_CharggieSparlover

How about this: having a brain increases the chances of brain cancer

Humbleplops

hailelmo1 wrote:

Please... provide us with some activities that is not a waste of intelligence... please dont say studying the bible 

I don't think our chocolate chump will be reccomending the Bible any day soon. He has more Gods than chess pieces, to occupy his time. Now if that's not a waste what is.

Humbleplops

GM_CharggieSparlover wrote:

How about this: having a brain increases the chances of brain cancer

One thing for sure you will never get a Cancer in that vacuum of yours.

devnna

hitthepin wrote:

He says chess wastes your time. So why does he play chess?

hahahaa😆 he might just try to save his face due to his defeats in chess play

4largeGorillas

None of the alleged “evidence” points toward chess being a waste of time and intelligence. 

GM_CharggieSparlover
Humbleplops wrote:
One thing for sure you will never get a Cancer in that vacuum of yours.

Let's play a quick game and see who has a vacuum... It was plain humour

 

AndBell

If playing chess is a waste of time, so is painting a picture, writing fiction, recording a song, etc...  anything not directly related to producing food, water and shelter, the necessities of survival could be called a waste of time, but imagine how boring life would be if all we did was farm.  Maybe that's an insult to farmers though,  I'm sure farming is very challenging.  Maybe farming is more difficult than chess and when farmers talk to each other they say "look at all those dumb chess players".  Maybe life is pointless and chess is just farming the demented corners of our minds for some meaning to this bowl of bitter dreams called life.  Or maybe analyzing the meaning of things is in itself the ultimate  point of games.  Maybe chess is an allegory for the unresolved questions humanity has about our own purpose.  Or maybe it's 32 bits of plastic on a piece of cardboard.  Who knows?

Luitpoldt

If you assume that humans naturally require some recreational time and lose their effectiveness and joy if they just invest their efforts in utilitarian projects all the time, then chess, like any other recreation, loses its character as a waste of time and energy.  Since the operational effectiveness of the human machine depends on recreation, you might as well fill that necessary down time with chess as anything else.

MickinMD

This thread has been running for almost two years.

Personally, after I retired and wasn't doing a lot of math in my head while teaching Physics and Chemistry, I found myself beginning to have short-term memory trouble when recording personal stock market or budget data.  After returning to chess, that ability has been restored. Yesterday I shopped at three different food markets and spent $47.52 at Wegman;s, $15.94 at Aldi, and $8 and change (can't remember exactly) at another Aldi when the first was out of something I wanted.

Before I returned to chess at the end of 2016, I would NOT have remembered those numbers, especially considering I looked at a lot of other financial numbers related to my stock market and bank accounts after shopping yesterday.

So chess is unquestionably worthwhile for me and I'm sure the same improved ability to concentrate and to exercise and improve memory occurs for many, many others.

The same is true with reading sheetmusic while playing, working crossword puzzles, knitting or crocheting, and other things requiring mental focus.

EdoubleU52
GMproposedsolutions wrote:

I think chess and most games for that matter would be of most use when young, at the time of developing the brain and then when older better things should be done - preparing meals, cleaning the house, gardening, landscaping, and maybe even working for a living. Just think of all the time put into this, losing sleep, putting off more important things. Think of all the things that could be constructed. I'd say even making a little birdhouse and giving it away to someone would be infinitely better than playing a game of chess. As an adult, I don't understand why anyone would put so much time into this game unless frustrated with life and I surely have enough frustrations to end up doing something like this. I know what I'd rather be doing but I cannot control how society functions.

Ironic how you're spending time to write about people wasting their time on the subject you feel is a waste of time....

MopheadJones
Every hobby is essentially a waste of time. But time you enjoy wasting isn’t really time wasted...I have only been playing chess seriously for about a month and I have noticed a real change in the way I approach problems in my everyday life. Chess has kind of taught me to approach problems as if there were an ‘optimum move’ and to weigh out consequences of my actions more...so to me that doesn’t seem like a waste of time at all.
DrSpudnik
GMproposedsolutions wrote:

Stock market is 4-8X overpriced per historical measures for an economy in the toilet, with small caps at the high end. Look at the Russell 2000 with a PE around 100! As every decent mathematician knows, the real GDP growth has been deeply negative 11 years running, properly accounting for deficit spending and monetary inflation. Pe ratios get compressed in bad times. The diligent have been unjustly forced to lose so the wealthy and otherwise ignorant gain undeservedly off everyone else. This life is a sham

....uh..so, you got any good stock tips?

najdorf96

Indeed. The OP lost me when he opined that most people think of Efren Reyes as just a pool shark or hustler. He is renowned as a great Champion bar none. In THAT vein, I hardly think IMHO that generally Chess Champions are regarded as "geniuses ". True, Chess is the Royal Game of games but as a measure of intelligence? Heh. I never thought that in the least otherwise I wouldn't be teaching kids how to play because I thought it would raise their grades. It's just a game. Prestigious, cool. But as a game only High IQ ppl can excel? Pfft. Nice try but no cigar my friend.😉

bong711

Invest in real estate if you got capital. If local market is depressed, go overseas.

EdoubleU52
GMproposedsolutions wrote:

Edouble, it's my duty.

Fair enough. I somewhat agree with you in a sense of there's plenty of other more productive things we all could be doing instead of playing chess but everyone needs a release, which is what playing is to a lot of folks.

Bazzaraa

Everyone in my class who plays chess seriously is intelligent And that's something I call 'evidence'.

bong711
BaraaZaraa wrote:

Everyone in my class who plays chess seriously is intelligent And that's something I call 'evidence'.

I lost to chess hustlers at the park. They are weak in Arithmetic and Reading Comprehension.