For me? I knew my days of preparing for and playing in OTB tournaments came to an end when it became more work than fun. I simply did not want t put in the time/efforts/etc. to prepare for tournaments. The last couple years I would go to tournaments to watch, go to the lectures, watch simuls, see friends, see the sites. But I did not miss playing.
Why do Chess players retire?
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Oct 23, 2020
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#3
The glorification of work is one of the most terrifying products of corporate propaganda. Sure, it’s totally fine for anyone to love working and work as hard as they wish. But there’s no shame in NOT turning oneself into an exhausted chess-playing machine.
Oct 23, 2020
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#4
Father time catches up to all of us. I'd imagine after becoming a professional you would want the top players playing and if you're no longer at that level competitively it would be the right thing to step away. Plus I'm sure they have other interests they'd like to pursue
Oct 23, 2020
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#5
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
For me? I knew my days of preparing for and playing in OTB tournaments came to an end when it became more work than fun. I simply did not want t put in the time/efforts/etc. to prepare for tournaments. The last couple years I would go to tournaments to watch, go to the lectures, watch simuls, see friends, see the sites. But I did not miss playing.
I find your statement to be odd. Being at the top of any discipline requires work. The great majority of time is spent in tedious repetition that is anything but fun. “Fun” is not even a criteria for success.
In my opinion a top competitor must train (work not fun) a minimum of 4 days per week, and they must compete the other two. The last day, everybody needs a rest.
Stating that you quit when it became work, that is just an excuse for not wanting to put in the work.
Exactly. That is what i said, I no longer want to put in the effort. I used to enjoy putting in the time and effort, but no more.
Oct 23, 2020
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#6
Richard_Hunter wrote:
It would seem like a Chess player could conceivably keep playing competitive Chess their entire life. Granted they are likely to decline in later years and lose more games, but I think it would be much better to be part of that scene rather than sitting at home twiddling your thumbs. Even if you were to lose often, I think if you saw it as a way of watching the top players close up and really understanding how they thought, I think you could end up getting an amazing and deep insight into Chess that would make it worthwhile.
why do people retire, period?
A wise man said: "Find a job you love and you'll never work another day in your life".
I don't begrudge anyone not wishing to play competitive Chess if they don't enjoy it. I just can't imagine not enjoying it. The worst thing about being a professional Chess player would be, I imagine, that it's a bit precarious from a financial point of view. But if that wasn't a concern, the 'work' involved of studying countless games and lines would be, in my opinion, a great joy.
LeeEuler wrote:
Father time catches up to all of us. I'd imagine after becoming a professional you would want the top players playing and if you're no longer at that level competitively it would be the right thing to step away. Plus I'm sure they have other interests they'd like to pursue
That would be the one worry for me: that you were taking up space another younger player could be using. I hope that wouldn't be the case though. If Gary Kasparov announced that he wanted to take part in some tournament, I hope that the organisers would make space for him not by kicking someone else out.
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
For me? I knew my days of preparing for and playing in OTB tournaments came to an end when it became more work than fun. I simply did not want t put in the time/efforts/etc. to prepare for tournaments. The last couple years I would go to tournaments to watch, go to the lectures, watch simuls, see friends, see the sites. But I did not miss playing.
I find your statement to be odd. Being at the top of any discipline requires work. The great majority of time is spent in tedious repetition that is anything but fun. “Fun” is not even a criteria for success.
In my opinion a top competitor must train (work not fun) a minimum of 4 days per week, and they must compete the other two. The last day, everybody needs a rest.
Stating that you quit when it became work, that is just an excuse for not wanting to put in the work.
Exactly. That is what i said, I no longer want to put in the effort. I used to enjoy putting in the time and effort, but no more.
No, you did not. You said that when it got hard, you quit. The part you do not understand, you will never understand, because you quit before you got there.
Lmaoo what is wrong with you? You aren't even on the same level as him and you're lecturing him on "being a top competitor". Get a reality check. chess is a game, and if playing it isn't fun its only logical that you would stop playing it. Your fancy wording doesn't hide the fact that you are a pretentious ********
Oct 23, 2020
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#10
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
For me? I knew my days of preparing for and playing in OTB tournaments came to an end when it became more work than fun. I simply did not want t put in the time/efforts/etc. to prepare for tournaments. The last couple years I would go to tournaments to watch, go to the lectures, watch simuls, see friends, see the sites. But I did not miss playing.
I find your statement to be odd. Being at the top of any discipline requires work. The great majority of time is spent in tedious repetition that is anything but fun. “Fun” is not even a criteria for success.
In my opinion a top competitor must train (work not fun) a minimum of 4 days per week, and they must compete the other two. The last day, everybody needs a rest.
Stating that you quit when it became work, that is just an excuse for not wanting to put in the work.
Exactly. That is what i said, I no longer want to put in the effort. I used to enjoy putting in the time and effort, but no more.
No, you did not. You said that when it got hard, you quit. The part you do not understand, you will never understand, because you quit before you got there.
Im going to excuse your comments for a few reasons:
1. New account.
2. You dont practice what you preach.
3. Troll (aka i reinvented the wheel).
Oct 23, 2020
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#11
Richard_Hunter wrote:
A wise man said: "Find a job you love and you'll never work another day in your life".
I don't begrudge anyone not wishing to play competitive Chess if they don't enjoy it. I just can't imagine not enjoying it. The worst thing about being a professional Chess player would be, I imagine, that it's a bit precarious from a financial point of view. But if that wasn't a concern, the 'work' involved of studying countless games and lines would be, in my opinion, a great joy.
And that is exactly here I am work wise :-)
Oct 23, 2020
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#12
SNUDOO wrote:
Richard_Hunter wrote:
It would seem like a Chess player could conceivably keep playing competitive Chess their entire life. Granted they are likely to decline in later years and lose more games, but I think it would be much better to be part of that scene rather than sitting at home twiddling your thumbs. Even if you were to lose often, I think if you saw it as a way of watching the top players close up and really understanding how they thought, I think you could end up getting an amazing and deep insight into Chess that would make it worthwhile.
why do people retire, period?
One friend retired early, health went to crap, blew trough his retirement, and now he is living with his sister.
Another died within a year of retiring.
Some others now just sit at home staring at the TV.
I look forward to going to work. I will do this until i no longer can. Then i will probably honor my youngest daughters wish and move close to her, her husband, and my grand kids.
Oct 23, 2020
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#13
Epiloque wrote:
I am bacon
IMBacon
Ah! Someone that reads and comprehends what they read. Very good Sir!
Oct 23, 2020
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#14
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
For me? I knew my days of preparing for and playing in OTB tournaments came to an end when it became more work than fun. I simply did not want t put in the time/efforts/etc. to prepare for tournaments. The last couple years I would go to tournaments to watch, go to the lectures, watch simuls, see friends, see the sites. But I did not miss playing.
I find your statement to be odd. Being at the top of any discipline requires work. The great majority of time is spent in tedious repetition that is anything but fun. “Fun” is not even a criteria for success.
In my opinion a top competitor must train (work not fun) a minimum of 4 days per week, and they must compete the other two. The last day, everybody needs a rest.
Stating that you quit when it became work, that is just an excuse for not wanting to put in the work.
Exactly. That is what i said, I no longer want to put in the effort. I used to enjoy putting in the time and effort, but no more.
No, you did not. You said that when it got hard, you quit. The part you do not understand, you will never understand, because you quit before you got there.
Im going to excuse your comments for a few reasons:
1. New account.
2. You dont practice what you preach.
3. Troll (aka i reinvented the wheel).
1: Are you a titled player, or does IM just make you feel important?
2: I practice exactly what I preach. I just started my Chess training.
3: Troll? I’m not the one pretending to be something I’m not.
his name literally means "I am bacon"
Oct 23, 2020
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#15
hvenki wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
For me? I knew my days of preparing for and playing in OTB tournaments came to an end when it became more work than fun. I simply did not want t put in the time/efforts/etc. to prepare for tournaments. The last couple years I would go to tournaments to watch, go to the lectures, watch simuls, see friends, see the sites. But I did not miss playing.
I find your statement to be odd. Being at the top of any discipline requires work. The great majority of time is spent in tedious repetition that is anything but fun. “Fun” is not even a criteria for success.
In my opinion a top competitor must train (work not fun) a minimum of 4 days per week, and they must compete the other two. The last day, everybody needs a rest.
Stating that you quit when it became work, that is just an excuse for not wanting to put in the work.
Exactly. That is what i said, I no longer want to put in the effort. I used to enjoy putting in the time and effort, but no more.
No, you did not. You said that when it got hard, you quit. The part you do not understand, you will never understand, because you quit before you got there.
Im going to excuse your comments for a few reasons:
1. New account.
2. You dont practice what you preach.
3. Troll (aka i reinvented the wheel).
1: Are you a titled player, or does IM just make you feel important?
2: I practice exactly what I preach. I just started my Chess training.
3: Troll? I’m not the one pretending to be something I’m not.
his name literally means "I am bacon"
how can you not worship bacon
Amen!
Oct 23, 2020
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#16
I'm pretty sure it's very obvious that real IMs have the red titled player "IM" while non-titled players do not.
Oct 23, 2020
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#17
ExploringWA wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's very obvious that real IMs have the red titled player "IM" while non-titled players do not.
Seriously, I didn’t know the difference. How would I? How would any new player?
Because it's red and different. I thought millions of years of evolution would teach most humans how to differentiate unique things from common things.
Oct 23, 2020
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#18
He has been reported. Lets let it go, and get back to the OP's original question.
I know a titled player that is in his early 70's and simply cannot play at his peak anymore. There was another guy that was in his 90's that played in Reno quite often. The poor guy was at one time an A player, and obviously is at his floor there. But the poor guy would get destroyed.
Oct 23, 2020
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#19
hvenki wrote:
bc they get old
wow. I cannot believe a sixth grader has figured the key to retirement.
It would seem like a Chess player could conceivably keep playing competitive Chess their entire life. Granted they are likely to decline in later years and lose more games, but I think it would be much better to be part of that scene rather than sitting at home twiddling your thumbs. Even if you were to lose often, I think if you saw it as a way of watching the top players close up and really understanding how they thought, I think you could end up getting an amazing and deep insight into Chess that would make it worthwhile.