I just had someone resign after no losses, and right after I put my (white) pawn at e5.
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Why do so many resign early?
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Jan 12, 2014
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#43
Some people do that...usually they just don't want to play a certain color or against a certain rating. Squid is right, a deficit of 3 pawns or more,when your opponent has a equal or greater rating,and you have no compensation or time advantage,is usually enough to ensure defeat.
it is showing respect.
SkepticGuy wrote:
First -- hello -- my first post in the fora here.
Second -- I'm just recently (less than six months) getting back into playing chess regularly after nearly 30 years of not. So, appologies if I come off as a curmudgeonly old fart.
But...
I've recently had several games where, as soon as things get a bit distressed (usually a lost Queen, or Queen with no options but to be taken), the opponent resigns. Typically someone with a "score" higher than mine.
HUH?
I'm not big into "studying" chess theory, tactics, and techniques (though I have done some), I like to just play. And I've learned the most by either playing someone strong who's at a disadvantage, or being at a disadvantage myself.
Is it just me? Or are others seeing knee-jerk game resignations when things get tough?
What we really need is an app that could summarize a long chess game.
Jan 13, 2014
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#46
Does anyone actually learn anything from playing out hopeless positions to the painful end,other than they should have resigned earlier? A common claim from those that refuse to resign is that they learn much from fighting on;this strikes me as ego refusing to face reality.
@badger: well some positions are commonly known as a draw if you know how to play it out. If you never practice them and you'll find an opponent who does want to play them then chances are you will lose. And the other way around, say you are in a tourney where you must win to proceed and the position is a typical draw then you are the person who keeps on playing hoping for a mistake.
If you agree to play a match with someone then play and don't assume because you're winning they should quit to save you the trouble of actually winning the game. If they resign then fine but don't whine if they don't. To me its a "holier than thou" position to take, especially in online chess and never in live chess. In otb I once played a man maybe 175-200 points higher than me he got up a pawn in the middlegame and expected me to resign. Over there huffing and puffing because he had to finish the game, whatever. I just laughed at him and played on. I'll do the same to any of you.
Jan 13, 2014
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#49
ElKitch and denner...we aren't talking about drawn positions, or even losing positions,we are talking about hopeless positions..ie...nothing you do can salvage the game.Both of you know the difference.
There's no obligation to resign or not resign, it's up to you. Having said that, it's not unreasonable to expect someone to do so once the position is totally lost (agree, definition varies by level and context, arguably at novice level no position is totally lost). Just going through the motions is wasting your own time as much as your opponents. But it's within your rights if you want to do it for your own strange reasons.
With the caviat that you don't mind if everything thinks you're a spoiltsport and a bad loser.
Jan 13, 2014
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#53
Twinchicky wrote:
It's generally considered good sportsmanship to resign if you are in a completely and hopelessly lost position. Now, that definition varies between levels of chess
Higher rated players criticizing skeptic guy might reread this. For a 1600 player, of course you will resign. Skeptic guy is less than 1200. At this rating, there is nothing wrong with playing on.
chess_gg wrote:
That is the right-on-the money thing to say at your point. Soldier on!
I know where you're coming from... but you've got to see if from both sides of the fence. This is coming from someone with direct personal experience of the following situation:
I'm playing a tournament game and suffering from severe stomach pain (result of a medical condition, it happens to me sometimes). I'm playing a 10-year-old and I'm a queen-for-a-piece up for nothing. I'm desperate to finish the game so I can go home and take some medication, but the kid insists on playing on until mate. This takes 2 hours, as he's not even playing quickly. I'm left in quite a state.
Jan 13, 2014
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#56
ivandh wrote:
I would like to add that, against a really good player, sometimes I will play on a rook down just to see their technique (after telling them so, otherwise they may think I'm just delaying to be a bad sport). But it depends on the position, most of the time it is just a cake-walk for them and I have nothing to gain or learn from wasting our time.
I believe that this is completely acceptable behavior. I can say that if someone said they wanted to play on a while to see the technique I would find that to be within the realms of good sportsmanship.
Other than that it all depends. If I am playing someone else rated roughly the same as me and I drop a piece with no compensation then I will simply resign. There is no point in wasting either their time or mine.
However, if I drop a piece against someone rated significantly below me then I may play on for a while to make sure they know the proper way to convert. If they show that they do I'll generally resign.
If someone higher rated than me loses a piece and plays on I assume they are doing the same thing.
Jan 13, 2014
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#57
For many people a triumphant feeling is their worst enemy. But when I see a lost game against a reasonably good player, I will often give up
But, there are also techniques (that I dont really know well, but stronger players do) to totally imbalance a position giving a player tactical shots. I could imagine you may actually sacrifice a piece to get to such position.
ElKitch wrote:
But, there are also techniques (that I dont really know well, but stronger players do) to totally imbalance a position giving a player tactical shots. I could imagine you may actually sacrifice a piece to get to such position.
Yeah, in that situation then play on by all means. But sometimes you will just be a piece down with no opportunity to do anything like that. These are two different scenarios.
I resign when my position is worse and I have no counterplay. If I see a longshot swindle, hey, why not? It can work because often the opponent does, indeed, relax.