Why does China have so many great female players?

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Hou Yifan will be 2700+ soon!!!
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i think she's pretty!

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General-TsoTso wrote:
Can you elaborate on your last sentence please, macer ?

Look up "China Olympics training" on a search engine.

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2Q1C wrote:

Hou Yifan will be retiring soon. Nobody likes her anymore after what she did!


who dosent like her? she planned that variation against nakamura, so if anything wed love too see her play...... i think ur wrong .
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Yifan will be next World Chess Champion!!!!!!

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Because China has their own chess variant(called xiangqi with VERY different rules, trust me. However, the aim is still the same: to mate the enemy king.), and females are more willing to try different things maybe?

I don't know but when i see the older generations play xiangqi down in my void deck it always seems to be an equal number of males and females but the males were somewhat better. I guess females are mode of a Jack of All Trades while males are more of a Master of One.

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rice is done quicker than taters.

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zqdw wrote:

rice is done quicker than taters.

 

Obviously, you haven't tried microwaving a potato!

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innerspace50 wrote:

The answer is quite simple. So simple it can only be a trolling question. Oh wait... the OP is a self described wanna be, probably embarrassed by now for asking.

You're mean! CryCryCry

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Basically, the reason great Chess players come from China is because chess actually STARTED in Asia, in India
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TargetPoint wrote:
Basically, the reason great Chess players come from China is because chess actually STARTED in Asia, in India

Yeah... that must be the reason... a lot of great female chess players come from China because chess originated in India.

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I can beat Hou Yifan!!!

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What!! 😵😵,🙊🙊
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macer75 wrote:
Charlotte wrote:
fewlio wrote:

I'll tell you the answer OP.  China moves into any void in the sports and competitive world.  They aren't going to win at popular stuff because it's a competitive world and in those sports they're behind the 8 ball.  Also because Chinese are not super athletic (if white men can't jump, asian men jump even less well).  So they go into things where they can do well.  Olympic diving, synchronized swimming, rhythmic gymnastics, gymnastics, there are many examples actually.

table tennis is another

Well... table tennis is different. It originated in China and did not become widely popular internationally, so of course Chinese athetes are going to be dominant in it, just as American athletes are dominant in basketball, Japanese in sumo wrestling, etc. But yes, the point about China "moving into voids" in sports seems to be accurate. The training that Chinese Olympic athletes go through is absolutely grueling, and I doubt that there are many people elsewhere in the world who are willing to endure that much pain and hardship in training for an event that isn't all that popular.

Who tells you table tennis originated in China?shock.png It's English who first played it!

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^He's right.

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macer75 wrote:

As of now 6 of the 19 highest-rated female players in the world are Chinese, including womens' #1 Hou Yifan, #2 (at least for now) Ju Wenjun, and the possible next Womens' Champion Tan Zhongyi (yes, she is a huge underdog, but if 2016 has taught us one thing, it's that underdogs shouldn't be counted out). Historically, in addition to Hou, 3 other Chinese women have won the championship title, namely Xie Jun (twice), Zhu Chen and Xu Yuhua (and yes, Judit Polgar didn't play in those championships, but a lot of other great female players did). By contrast, while China's top male players today are certainly no pushovers, none of them are consistently ranked in the top 10, and historically no Chinese player has come close to winning the WCC. Hence the question: why are there so many great Chinese female players, and why the gender disparity?

Possibly female chess players are more socially accepted there.

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macer75 wrote: 

"Well... table tennis is different. It originated in China and did not become widely popular internationally,"

 

Hogwash. He simply "made this up" without knowing any facts. Here are a few.

1. Table Tennis is the 2nd most popular sport internationally. Very popular all over Europe, Sweden etc, with 100's of professional leagues and sponsored players. The participant numbers rival that of soccer because of the huge popularity in China. It is very popular world wide.

2. China has been the dominate country at major events, but other counties compete at the same high level and often win major events. The Chinese lost their dominance for many years as they insisted on keeping their eastern grip on the bat. The western grip is far superior. The Chinese finally adopted the western grip (most players) and climbed back to #1

3. Table tennis was invented in England in the 19th century.

4. Table tennis athletes are among the best, if not the very best conditioned athletes of any sport. 

As the popularity of table tennis in China shows, sheer numbers translates to a larger pool of talented players. Same for chess which has been adopted as standard course of study at early age, plus social stigmas for woman players are non-existent. In fact female chess players are embraced for their talents in China. 

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Russia actually has far more top 20 (July 2017) female chess players when viewed as a percentage of population...they have 5 and their population is only 143 million, while China has 5 too, they also have a huge population of 1388 million to draw on...here is the backup:

https://ratings.fide.com/top.phtml?list=women

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

 

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fewlio wrote:

I'll tell you the answer OP.  China moves into any void in the sports and competitive world.  They aren't going to win at popular stuff because it's a competitive world and in those sports they're behind the 8 ball.  Also because Chinese are not super athletic (if white men can't jump, asian men jump even less well). 

 

More hogwash. Chinese are not athletic? You're full of baloney. In all sport, there is a general desirable body type to achieve the best results. Tall for basketball, big for football, lean for swimming etc, etc. Because a group of people do not fit into a specific mold does not mean they aren't athletic. Being athletic refers in main to hand, eye, body coordination and not to shape or size.  

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universityofpawns wrote:

Russia actually has far more top 20 (July 2017) female chess players when viewed as a percentage of population...they have 5 and their population is only 143 million, while China has 5 too, they also have a huge population of 1388 million to draw on...here is the backup:

https://ratings.fide.com/top.phtml?list=women

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

 

Yes. Chess has been "socially accepted", taught at early ages in school for woman for a very long time  in Russia and former satellite countries. The results are seen in their world dominance. China is relatively new in comparison, the results are just beginning to show.