Why does EVERYONE play the Philidor Defense?

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JackRoach

Half the time after they play e5 and I move Nf6, they play the Philidor Defense, at least people at my level do.

I think that GM Benjiman Finegold has something to do with this. (I he had a course or something, don't know the details) But they always play the same line and play the same general way.

MovedtoLiches
My go to is the Caro Kann. I’m not sure I’ve ever played the Philidor.
JackRoach
ExploringWA wrote:
My go to is the Caro Kann. I’m not sure I’ve ever played the Philidor.

Hmm... well do  you know why these people keep playing it?

 

MovedtoLiches
JackRoach wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
My go to is the Caro Kann. I’m not sure I’ve ever played the Philidor.

Hmm... well do  you know why these people keep playing it?

 

I am clueless. 

MovedtoLiches

I have a few books on the Philidor, but they are relegated to being on a shelf for at least the next few years. 

Gimfain

I remember when I was rated around where you were, people were so afraid of getting their knight pinned that they kept making preeemptive pawn moves like philidor H6/A6 moves resulting in poor development and center pawn breaks became deadly.

JackRoach
Gimfain wrote:

I remember when I was rated around where you were, people were so afraid of getting their knight pinned that they kept making preeemptive pawn moves like philidor H6/A6 moves resulting in poor development and center pawn breaks became deadly.

Hm... that is probably a factor. I hate getting my knight pinned also.

PaulTheTaylor

The Philidor defense , it keeps blacks darksquared bishop boxed in behind the d pawn, I have played it sometimes, but the main idea behind it is to get the move f5 in. Nowadays I dont think  I'd play it in a Clubgame .

If black plays c5 in the Exchange Variation it can give white an advantage. Im no Expert but this is my experience

JackRoach

No one is really answering my question, except for Gimfain who noted a likely factor. I know what the Philidor Defense is.

NilsIngemar

Eric Rosen

 

They are going for his tricky tricky trappy stuff. It is a gambit.  It starts like this

 

PaulTheTaylor

It looks like a logical move for beginners

JackRoach
NilsIngemar wrote:

Eric Rosen

 

They are going for his tricky tricky trappy stuff. It is a gambit.  It starts like this

 

THis is the Petrov's defense

NilsIngemar

He was responsible for this from black players for a while.

At least for people who played it against me lol.

NilsIngemar
JackRoach wrote:
NilsIngemar wrote:

Eric Rosen

 

They are going for his tricky tricky trappy stuff. It is a gambit.  It starts like this

 

THis is the Petrov's defense

It is all the same to me lol.

 

Oops

JackRoach
NilsIngemar wrote:
JackRoach wrote:
NilsIngemar wrote:

Eric Rosen

 

They are going for his tricky tricky trappy stuff. It is a gambit.  It starts like this

 

THis is the Petrov's defense

It is all the same to me lol.

 

Oops

No worries. It's fine.

Cool_Prakhar
Well, most ppl at my level either go with queens gambit, or Italian
Anonymous_Dragon
Gimfain wrote:

I remember when I was rated around where you were, people were so afraid of getting their knight pinned that they kept making preeemptive pawn moves like philidor H6/A6 moves resulting in poor development and center pawn breaks became deadly.

True

Anonymous_Dragon
Tonya_Harding wrote:

And why I do play the Philidor, well, it's simple: it's under-estimated and under studied by players my level.

Here an example:

 

My 2100 rated teacher also used to say the same....and always kept pushing me to learn it cause not many people study it properly.

Anonymous_Dragon

Well I don't play any of them...but am still a noob....so that's unfair to call anyone who plays Italian and philidor to be noobs

 

 

 

 

Strangemover

A question I have is why do most people play 4.Nxd4 instead of 4.Qxd4? In my experience anyway, Qxd4 seems stacks better.