Why does society hate chess?

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Elubas wrote:
ab121705 wrote:
Sub1000 wrote:

Because chess takes too much effort to understand vs popular sport. I can drunk beer, yell at the TV, and cheer for any random team when I watch football, knowing nothing else about the game.

Kinda hard to watch chess if you dont even know how the pieces move. I can totally watch football when I dont even know the rules, know any of the players, and so can/does everyone else.

They were showing chess replays and highlights on ESPN the other day. 

Why? lol.

they had expert commentators raving about the downfield speed of the bishops, the nimbleness of the knights, and how pawns always slow down after their first move. they're actually debating introducing video review into chess, so they can review questionable calls

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Whip_Kitten wrote:
ab121705 wrote:

Most of us truly do not give a crap about the LGBT or WXYZ "community" (where is this "community" BTW; never seen it); live and let live but do not expect me to give a sh***t, like I do not expect anyone to give a sh**t about my lifestyle choices. 

TV pushes these issues to get ratings. 

Jenner wants attention and money and I despise him/her or whatever. She/he is not courageous, nor a hero; he/she is getting rich and famous (again).

Don't think it's merely a "lifetstyle choice."  

Bruce Jenner chopping off his wang for attention and money!?  Bwahaha.

 

Methinks your empathy on these issues might be a little compromised.  :)

Why do people say "methinks"?? never understood that; I have no empathy for people who say "methinks". Also, what do you mean by "compromised??" Fact is, I have no empathy whatsoever. Billions of people in the world have much bigger problems than Jenner. He is rich and famous and I could not care less about him. 

Now, I feel like a woman; can I use the women's shower tonight? 

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"Everybody says it's no one's business, but then they applaud him for making it everyone's business"

That's an interesting point. Although in this case, since Jenner was already pretty well-known, wouldn't he/she inevitably get attention for this whether it was wanted or not?

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"Why do people say "methinks"??"

Because it shows courage to be grammatically incorrect! :)

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Elubas wrote:

"Everybody says it's no one's business, but then they applaud him for making it everyone's business"

That's an interesting point. Although in this case, since Jenner was already pretty well-known, wouldn't he/she inevitably get attention for this whether it was wanted or not?

Why?? with his money, he could have kept it private if he wanted to. or he could have just come out and said it's a personal issue and he does not want to discuss it publicly (instead of going on talk shows etc). Whatever sex/gender issues I may have, I don't talk about them publicly. 

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tkbunny wrote:
Fish-Killer wrote:

They should ban members from this website for posting stupid questions.

result: empty site 

whatcha doin'?? (oops, was that a stupid question?; oops was that another stupid question??..oops...)

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Elubas wrote:

"Why do people say "methinks"??"

Because it shows courage to be grammatically incorrect! :)

It's archaic, but not grammatically incorrect; I think people say it to sound intelligent and lend some faux authenticity to their comments

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"me" indicates the person speaking is the object (unlike "I"). Objects don't do things, like think, shout, eat, etc. Subjects do.

I guess methinks is taken to be a full, independent word though. Probably Shakespeare was just fucking with us and we took it seriously.

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ab121705 wrote:

they had expert commentators raving about the downfield speed of the bishops, the nimbleness of the knights, and how pawns always slow down after their first move. they're actually debating introducing video review into chess, so they can review questionable calls

lol

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Elubas wrote:

"me" indicates the person speaking is the object (unlike "I"). Objects don't do things, like think, shout, eat, etc. Subjects do.

I guess methinks is taken to be a full, independent word though. Probably Shakespeare was just fucking with us and we took it seriously.

Not sure what you are saying. But methinks it is in the dictionary, an archaic way of saying "I think."

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Didn't go to page 2 and 3, went from page 1 to 4, and....surprise! Discussion on the word "methinks" instead of Why does society hate chess?

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It just doesn't seem to make sense to make a word that looks almost exactly like an incorrect way of saying I think ("me thinks"). But, oh well, people did anyway I guess!

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Robert0905 wrote:

Didn't go to page 2 and 3, went from page 1 to 4, and....surprise! Discussion on the word "methinks" instead of Why does society hate chess?

When a question is already answered within the first page or two, it gets boring here.

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Why do people say "methinks"??

Because once upon a time Shakespeare was revered in our culture and even if you hadn't read or seen his plays, you knew some of the thousands of words and lines Shakespeare had infused into the English language.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks..."
--William Shakespeare, "Hamlet"

It's often misquoted with the methinks at the start. Just about anytime someone says "methinks" they are echoing this line from the Bard.

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"I think poetry and chess are wonderful, but really, the world owes nothing to poets and chess players."

Well sure it's an economics thing I suppose. But I could understand why a poet for example would feel unlucky in the sense that they happened to have a talent that people didn't care so much about, whereas sports players had a talent that people happened to care about.

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what a totally facile analogy; not even worth comment

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ipcress12 wrote:

Why do people say "methinks"??

Because once upon a time Shakespeare was revered in our culture and even if you hadn't read or seen his plays, you knew some of the thousands of words and lines Shakespeare had infused into the English language.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks..."
--William Shakespeare, "Hamlet"

It's often misquoted with the methinks at the start. Just about anytime someone says "methinks" they are echoing this line from the Bard.

Damn you with faint praise

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Excatly what do you mean by "society" and how was it determined that "society hates chess"?

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actually the language is still full of Shakespeare

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ab121705 wrote:

actually the language is still full of Shakespeare

Of course, but fewer and fewer know it. Shakespeare is being phased out of high school and college curricula. It's a shame.

However, there have been some fine film adaptions of Shakespeare in the past twenty years -- a bunch by Branagh, of course, including his great Hamlet and Henry V.

Just last week I watched the Pacino/Irons "Merchant of Venice" from 2004. It was riveting.

It always takes me a half hour or so to get used to the language and I'll refer to wiki if I lose the plot, but once I am settled into the play, it's a treat. I am surprised how modern the plays seem in psychology and plot.