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Daybreak57

They are honing your skills.  If you lose, then you lost due to the rules of the game, even though they where hopelessly lost by 10 or more points, you where down on time in order to make it possible, and you made a choice to play a game with short enough time controls to make flagging a factor.  If you don't like it.  Stop whining, and play games with longer time controls.  If you never win in a game with longer time controls, then it's not the time that is the factor, its your poor chess skills.  Time management, is part of chess.  Also, to make faster moves, try drilling a lot of tactics.  The person who moves faster is the person with more patterns in his head.

 

Flaggers deserve respect because they won't quit.  They will make you think to find a checkmate in the small amount of time that you have, while all they have to do is either give pointless checks, or avoid checkmate, making dumb moves, or moves to solidify the position, making a fortress, that will take time to crack.  This means  that you ultimately will take longer to think, while they will not have to think so much, making the time advantage they have even more abundent.  Like it or not the best blitz and bullet players attempt to flag their opponent when they are hopelessly lost but have a nice time advantage.  I'll name two, Hikaru Namura, and Daniel Rensch.  Just watch Daniel Rensch's bullet brawls dude, he tries to  flag every chance he gets, though, he doesn't have to do it a lot.  Now comes my next point.  If that is your whole stragtegy, just to flag, then you are a bad chess player, however, if your goal is to win the game by checkmate with good moves time permitting, with a secondary objective to win on time or just flag your opponent, then you are a good chess player.  I've searched users games that where about 2000 and I've seen some that make terrible moves just to win on time, while others, make great moves with little time needed.  Don't be mad at flaggers, because in bullet or blitz, that is the name of the game, a secondary protocol.  If you resigned every game that you could have won with time then I would say you are being too nice.  Besides, as I said, flaggers make you a better chess player, honing your skills at annihilating his position in the fastest way possible.

 

This is the truth:  Flagging, is just a secondary protocol.  If you win the majority of your games due to flagging then you are not a good chess player, in my book... but then again the only book that matters is your own, oh well, do what you will.  Anyway, in my opinion, if you win the majority of your games due to flagging then you are a terrible chess player, and need to reasses the way you play chess.  If that is the case for the person that flagged you, then you have reason to be upset.  If not, then it is what it is, a secondary protocol, due to the name of the game, and that is, SPEED!

Strangemover

I flagged before I got to the end of this post.

ChePlaSsYer

Too long to read. Good luck next time.

rileydabozo

good post! flaggers do really teach players to learn it think fast and manage time better. it's a valid way to win however, especially in bullet.

solskytz

Yeah, good post. You reached an understanding and you share it with the community. I have no idea why the bitter responses. Who knows - maybe they've eaten something bad...

ChePlaSsYer
solskytz wrote:

Yeah, good post. You reached an understanding and you share it with the community. I have no idea why the bitter responses. Who knows - maybe they've eaten something bad...

Yeah, my wife does not cook very well.

I hope she does not read this surprise.png

solskytz

I join your hopes. 

The_Chin_Of_Quinn

It's not as if on move 40 you suddenly lose all your time. If you don't pace yourself you'll lose. You know this from move 1. If you play slowly it means you're confused. If they play fast it means they're not confused.

Even in blitz/bullet games between GMs, the weaker player will usually be down on time because they're having to calculate patterns the other player automatically sees.

macer75
ChePlaSsYer wrote:
solskytz wrote:

Yeah, good post. You reached an understanding and you share it with the community. I have no idea why the bitter responses. Who knows - maybe they've eaten something bad...

Yeah, my wife does not cook very well.

I hope she does not read this 

Quoting in case you decide to delete it. Tongue Out

Napoleon_the_Lame

Hmm by not resigning in a losing position you are not respecting me. Why should I respect you? XD

talapia
Napoleon_the_Lame wrote:

Hmm by not resigning in a losing position you are not respecting me. Why should I respect you? XD

 

You got to give respect to get respect.

ScootaChess

Finally, someone said it.

autobunny
Napoleon_the_Lame wrote:

Hmm by not resigning in a losing position you are not respecting me. Why should I respect you? XD

Responding to a post from 2.5 years ago indicates that you might be a repeat victim of flagging. 

Always watch the clock. 🕒 tick tock... 

Patszer

There is nothing wrong with flagging an opponent. The time factor is part of the game. I do think that the OP should write an article on this topic because I found this post very interesting and I would have enjoyed reading more about it.

dylanpthomas
“The person who moves faster is the person with more patterns in his head”. That is nonsense. In my experience, a lot of times the person that moves faster seems like they don’t have a functioning brain. They’re just moving as quickly as possible to run the clock out with zero strategy behind it. This defeats the purpose of playing chess. This allows people to play like complete garbage and win the game because they used pre-moves.