Why is Chess.com growing so quickly?

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The_Krieg
BoardMonkey wrote:
The_Krieg wrote:
BoardMonkey wrote:

Self-promotion. Plane and simple.

Self promotion huh...  

I honestly think the marketing efforts are horrible.  Money is tossed around with no real sense of vision or target expectation; similar to a monkey throwing its mud pies on a wall and laughing when one of those stinking patches sticks.

If you throw enough spaghetti at the wall, some of it is bound to stick.

 

yes.  but i prefer my version better

The_Krieg

I recently received a notice saying that Due to recent server crashes, games have been cancelled mid game

 

So the expontential growth in chess.com is beginning to drastically affect the ability to actually play games on chess.com.

 

The question remains...  why is chess.com growing so fast that its servers cannot keep up with the exponential growth?  What is driving the massive daily user numbers on chess.com if there is nothing in the world that is driving or increasing interest in chess?

dfgh123

Because kids are becoming less active and turning to mind sports, why head a ball and get brain damage when you can sit in a gaming chair and excel with your mind.

Martin_Stahl
The_Krieg wrote

Untrue

 

patently false statement mr stahl

 

Show us the chess sets around campus being used by new interested chess players in schools.  its not happening.  not here nowhere

 

students and school age kids are not playing chess in widely increased numbers anywhere around the world.  That is the reason why chess is still relatively low in favorite games categories in surveys amongst all age groups.  It has been and remains a fact that chess is really not that popular for several reasons... difficulty being one of them and the fact that people get discouraged by their inability to progress and get better regardless of mentoring or teaching 

 

Many who play chess well, simply dont know how to pass on their skills.  often it cannot be passed on either because if a student simply lacks talent or intellect, then they often lack the ability to get good or great at chess.  Not trying to be hurtful or controversial in the statement it is just a fact.  If you lack talent or intellect then you will not be a good or great chess player.  nothing controversial about that statement.  

 

No one is questioning the numbers as a count of user activity online.  however, it is a fair question ask why is chess.com numbers growing so exponentially if nothing in the world of chess is experiencing similar or close to matching growth?

 

The comments are that they're playing on their devices, which certainly aligns with more people using the site and potentially others.  But if you want to call their statements untrue, that certainly your prerogative. I mentioned it was anecdotal as well.

 

You also can't possibly know that it's not happening either or to what extent. The site saw almost a doubling of incoming traffic and that traffic has been sustained for the most part.

 

It doesn't really take a large increase in interest, to have a very large number of people getting interested and playing online. 8 billion+ people in the world and and the the vast majority aren't playing online.

 

Bit as mentioned, other are experiencing growth as well. 

The_Krieg

Show us what is driving the massive increase in chess worldwide...

 

Show us why there is a sudden and inexplicable exponential growth in daily user numbers on chess.com that it is outpacing chess.com servers and overloading the site?

 

show us why this is happening when there is literally nothing going on in the world of chess...

Martin_Stahl
The_Krieg wrote:

Show us what is driving the massive increase in chess worldwide...

 

Show us why there is a sudden and inexplicable exponential growth in daily user numbers on chess.com that it is outpacing chess.com servers and overloading the site?

 

show us why this is happening when there is literally nothing going on in the world of chess...

 

I certainly can't show what's causing it. The site has some ideas, which they posted, but I think that was only part of it. You don't have to show the cause of why it's happening when it's actually happening. 

 

You can think the site is lying about it's traffic numbers if you want. It doesn't mean it's not happening, even if it's not fully explainable.

The_Krieg
Martin_Stahl wrote:
The_Krieg wrote

Untrue

 

patently false statement mr stahl

 

Show us the chess sets around campus being used by new interested chess players in schools.  its not happening.  not here nowhere

 

students and school age kids are not playing chess in widely increased numbers anywhere around the world.  That is the reason why chess is still relatively low in favorite games categories in surveys amongst all age groups.  It has been and remains a fact that chess is really not that popular for several reasons... difficulty being one of them and the fact that people get discouraged by their inability to progress and get better regardless of mentoring or teaching 

 

Many who play chess well, simply dont know how to pass on their skills.  often it cannot be passed on either because if a student simply lacks talent or intellect, then they often lack the ability to get good or great at chess.  Not trying to be hurtful or controversial in the statement it is just a fact.  If you lack talent or intellect then you will not be a good or great chess player.  nothing controversial about that statement.  

 

No one is questioning the numbers as a count of user activity online.  however, it is a fair question ask why is chess.com numbers growing so exponentially if nothing in the world of chess is experiencing similar or close to matching growth?

 

The comments are that they're playing on their devices, which certainly aligns with more people using the site and potentially others.  But if you want to call their statements untrue, that certainly your prerogative. I mentioned it was anecdotal as well.

 

You also can't possibly know that it's not happening either or to what extent. The site saw almost a doubling of incoming traffic and that traffic has been sustained for the most part.

 

It doesn't really take a large increase in interest, to have a very large number of people getting interested and playing online. 8 billion+ people in the world and and the the vast majority aren't playing online.

 

Bit as mentioned, other are experiencing growth as well. 

 

 

Any one can make a statement and pretend that it is merely anecdotal.  don't hide behind the anecdotal wall.  if you make a statement then come forth with proof when you say it.

 

Don't pretend that children around the world are suddenly playing chess in mass numbers even though chess remains a fairly unpopular game in categories when surveyed across the age spectrum.  that is a fact.  Children are no more interested in chess than before and it will likely remain that way because of the difficulty of playing chess

 

furthermore with the rise in attention deficit disorders and other mental health driven conditions worldwide it is unlikely that the numbers amongst children school age who will be able to hold their attention to chess for extended periods is doubtful.  

 

site traffic once against doesn't explain itself.  People don't just start playing chess or tell themselves, oh I want to go on chess.com and create an account to play chess even though there is no reason for me to be interested in it.  Mind you these are supposedly people who never played chess before and who dont know how to play online creating new accounts on chess for no explicable reason.... nothing driving chess numbers or exponential growth... no huge news events, no mass celebrity type breaking into the world championships... nothing.  

 

there is literally nothing happening in chess to be driving these numbers and exponential growth and there are no supporting numbers for similar sites or as you cited on the school level.  

 

its not happening in the united states, its not happening in Germany.  it sure as heck isn't happening in Ukraine.  soldiers being sent by Russia who many play chess are not logging on and creating new accounts to play in battlefields. Nothing.  no one is getting interested in playing chess to the degree necessary to explain such a sudden and progressively increased daily user number 

 

so what is the real reason why chess.com is experiencing such an exponential growth in daily users if there is literally nothing happening around the world to drive such growth?

The_Krieg
Martin_Stahl wrote:
The_Krieg wrote:

Show us what is driving the massive increase in chess worldwide...

 

Show us why there is a sudden and inexplicable exponential growth in daily user numbers on chess.com that it is outpacing chess.com servers and overloading the site?

 

show us why this is happening when there is literally nothing going on in the world of chess...

 

I certainly can't show what's causing it. The site has some ideas, which they posted, but I think that was only part of it. You don't have to show the cause of why it's happening when it's actually happening. 

 

You can think the site is lying about it's traffic numbers if you want. It doesn't mean it's not happening, even if it's not fully explainable.

 

Nowhere... I repeat nowhere have I accused the site of lying.

 

you can go back and I hope every member who reads this does so.... check and see that I did not accuse chess.com of lying about its daily user numbers.  in fact, I'm taking the daily user numbers are real... for what chess.com is counting as daily users 

 

However, we are questioning why there has been such an exponential unexplained rapid growth in daily use numbers when there is nothing driving such rapid growth.  you can't just justify it by saying that it is happening because it is happening.  no.  that's unacceptable.  what's happening is your site is crashing, your servers cannot keep up and you are compromised so to say you don't know why is unacceptable.  

 

If chess.com cannot point to the reason for the exponential growth in daily user numbers and chess is not suddenly becoming the most popular and talked about game in the world, then you have to take a serious look at the real reason behind such growth...  

 

What is the real reason for the exponential growth of daily user numbers on chess.com?

EscherehcsE

Yeah, chess is becoming cool. I guess I should move on to something else. Maybe tiddlywinks...

The_Krieg
dfgh123 wrote:

Because kids are becoming less active and turning to mind sports, why head a ball and get brain damage when you can sit in a gaming chair and excel with your mind.

 

What??????

 

Where in the world do you see this?

 

Do you see parents taking their kids inside or encouraging their children to stay inside more?  where in the world is this happening.  I can site personal examples of the times that I have literally seen parents throw their kids outside because they could not stand being around them any more than they had to and you're telling me that suddenly parents around the world are encouraging their kids to remain at home rather than getting the heck out of the house and away from them so that they can have some peace and quiet away from those spoiled loud inconsiderate brats?!

 

disclaimer:  not all kids are brats and not all parents hate being around their kids all the time.  some parents do care for their kids and can tolerate their annoying loud and inconsiderate me me me behavior that is utterly exhausting to be around and irritating to the core to the point where a parent would literally look to toss a kid out of the house in order to stay mentally stable.  this is only to make the point that no one is encouraging kids to stay inside and play chess on a computer or on chess.com

The_Krieg
EscherehcsE wrote:

Yeah, chess is becoming cool. I guess I should move on to something else. Maybe tiddlywinks...

 

what?  Chess is cool?  come on

really?

kangusmangus

I’m new to chess and chess.com and hooked… I think I played like 100 games in the course of 2 days on rapid when I first started lol… I had no idea what I was doing and now play over the board with my wife and father and am learning… what got me into it was oddly enough the Hans nieman scandal lol which is crazy… it generated a ton of views on YouTube and I think just general interest in chess….

 

andrew tate is a great motivational speaker.. the ones on here calling him names are simply insecure NPCs lol… but he is also generating interest in chess as I was listening to him around the time I first “discovered” chess again…

finally I watched queens gambit after playing for a few days and that was the final mail in the coffin of me being hooked on chess… I believe these three things are working in unison to promote the game of chess… I would know as I literally just got into it

kangusmangus

Also the streamers literally are all over YouTube… chess is very popular right now and I don’t think that’s going to change

dfgh123

Tate is wasting away in a cell spends his days doing calisthenics thinking of days gone past, if that is the cause of the chess increase will it last much longer.

Martin_Stahl

https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/chess-is-booming-and-our-servers-are-struggling

 

https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/an-update-regarding-our-server

 

The site included information on the increased traffic. The traffic is real, even if it's not completely clear what drove the initial bump or is driving the continuing traffic. There's apparently some reasons and it may not be clear exactly what they are.

 

As mentioned, the site has some ideas, which they posted. I don't think that encompasses everything and it's very likely that the reasons may not be completely known. Doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of things. The traffic is here and it will be interesting to see if it falls off or continues to grow.

Martin_Stahl

Here are the Google trends for chess. There is absolutely something driving an interest in chess and it obviously started at the end of 2022 and spiked early this year.

 

last 90 days

last 5 years

kangusmangus
dfgh123 wrote:

Tate is wasting away in a cell spends his days doing calisthenics thinking of days gone past, if that is the cause of the chess increase will it last much longer.

 

found one of the NPCs

 

kangusmangus
Martin_Stahl wrote:

Here are the Google trends for chess. There is absolutely something driving an interest in chess and it obviously started at the end of 2022 and spiked early this year.

Which is when I got into it for the reasons I said… tate+ queens gambit+ Gotham is trending+ Hans nieman scandal… it’s pretty simple

last 90 days

 

last 5 years

 

 

The_Krieg
Martin_Stahl wrote:

https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/chess-is-booming-and-our-servers-are-struggling

 

https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/an-update-regarding-our-server

 

The site included information on the increased traffic. The traffic is real, even if it's not completely clear what drove the initial bump or is driving the continuing traffic. There's apparently some reasons and it may not be clear exactly what they are.

 

As mentioned, the site has some ideas, which they posted. I don't think that encompasses everything and it's very likely that the reasons may not be completely known. Doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of things. The traffic is here and it will be interesting to see if it falls off or continues to grow.

 

 

saying that there is "something" driving the perceived interest in chess is not enough.

 

none of the increased daily user numbers are supported by any real facts and chess.com can't name the driver of its supposed exponential growth in such a short period of time.  

 

Your Google charts that you cite are useless because it could start from an increment of 1 and move to 100 to show short term interest trends based on what?  

 

There is nothing happening in chess right now...  yet sooooooooooo many new users and new account activity.  That's unusual.  

 

No one is talking about chess.  go ahead... look around you.  there is nothing.  no news.  no significant events.  no shows.  nothing.  yet chess.com numbers are spiking and the servers are crashing... of course why are the servers really crashing?  anyone?

 

truth is that people are not any more interested in chess than they were 5 years ago.  the number of really good players hasnt changed significantly either because most of those "people" who recently learned or became interested in chess are not very good and never will be...

 

anyone who gets interested in chess because of Andrew Tate is pretty much an outlier.  as i stated before, if your main driver of interest is someone who is the pariah of females in a world where half the population is female, then you don't really have a driver.

 

To date, chess.com cannot identify the obvious when it comes to its exponential growth (unexplained) exponential growth mind you.  And with such growth, no one cares?  Everyone just wants to close their eyes and pretend that chess suddenly is so popular.  Chess is not more popular than before period.  So, why is it that chess.com has done nothing to identify what is driving up the daily use of its site and causing its servers to crash regularly... causing the loss of site integrity over time and causing such a massive increase in its resources being depleted.  

 

if its not the popularity of chess driving such increased exponential growth, then what is it?

The_Krieg

oh yes... and it is "something" driving the exponential growth in such a short period of time

 

So, what is it?  I dare all of you to take a look online. 

THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON IN CHESS TO JUSTIFY SUCH EXPONENTIAL GROWTH IN DAILY USERS

 

This is the reality 

 

yet everyone seems willing to pretend that chess is so popular.  it's not.  so what is it?