Why is Chess.com growing so quickly?

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Sadlone

Bots, aliens, even cats all of them playing on chess.com, the reason for population explosion

The_Krieg
idilis wrote:
aoidaiki wrote:
The_Krieg wrote:
aoidaiki wrote:
The_Krieg wrote:

As I said before, Twitter had a massive increase in daily use and "users"

Irrelevant.

 

very relevant... 

 

Aliens? That was kirsan's argument. You can't disagree with the fide president even a former president.

 

Aliens???  Wait, is there an actual theory going around out there that cites Aliens as the reason for the exponential growth of daily use numbers on chess.com?

 

Do tell...  

aoidaiki

I get the feeling you recently learned the word "exponential" and now you're using it every chance you get.

Deadmanparty

Bots are the most likely part of the problem

 

The_Krieg
aoidaiki wrote:
The_Krieg wrote:

40 people showing up for an event isn't exactly monumental.  

Right, but it wasn't 40 and that wasn't the point I was making.

 

Whatever number you are citing is irrelevant because it is nominal at best.

 

Everyone can say that their hometown "chess club has more members than ever before"  That's meaningless.  If a club had 2 members traditionally and suddenly there's 2 more members... OMG.   a 100% increase because chess has become so popular.  see this support the argument that chess is so popular and main stream now.  

 

Give me break.  there are a lot of refutable "reasons" being tossed around to justify the sudden exponential increase in chess.com daily user numbers.  However, the fact is that none of those purported reasons make sense.  And citing increase in membership at hometown chess events without actual numbers is akin to similar to saying that chess has increased so much in popularity that suddenly there are so many more good and great players worldwide.  

 

The truth is the 99% level of chess is populated by the same players who populated that pool within the last 3-5 years.  we dont have tens of thousands of new players suddenly popping into the 99%.  By its very definition, that can't happen by a regular course of events.  Instead the bell curve shapes drastically front end weighted with very few top level players.  However, that doesn't match the actual user increase seen on Chess.com.  many of the new accounts are suddenly 99% level players...  so is it really an exponential growth in daily user numbers because of increased popularity worldwide or is it something else entirely???

The_Krieg
aoidaiki wrote:

I get the feeling you recently learned the word "exponential" and now you're using it every chance you get.

 

Exponential adequately describes the recent increase in daily user activity on chess.com

 

It is not incrementally larger... it is exponentially larger

The_Krieg
aoidaiki wrote:

I guess I'm unblocked... for now...

 

I didn't block anyone from this forum topic.  

 

It was probably a Mod censoring you because you might have alluded to an off limits topic.

 

Stay on topic and you won't get silenced by chess.com mods.  simple 

The_Krieg
Hedgehog1963 wrote:

The local chess club here in Preston, UK has had a significant increase in new people turning up this winter.

 

what do you mean by "significant" 

The_Krieg
toxic_internet wrote:

Whatever the truth is, no one will ever say.

 

Can we all agree that the unspoken reason for the exponential growth in daily user activity on chess.com should be disclosed?  

 

It is unacceptable for chess.com to avoid investigating the real reason for the exponential growth in daily user activity on chess.com, especially since its servers cannot handle the current drastic increase in user activity.  That type of major problem warrants an investigation and internal analysis of systems.  

 

If chess.com wants to state that its daily user activity is due to increased interest in chess, then show us.  show us proof of the increased activity and the reason for such an increase online of interest in chess.  furthermore, demonstrate how such an exponential increase in daily user numbers could possibly include a radical increase in players at the 99% level of chess skill.  show us how this is possible...

JosiahForReal22
This is a very interesting topic. I’m just happy people are enjoying chess
Deadmanparty

I think many aren't really enjoying chess, just enjoying trying to beat the clock.

aoidaiki
The_Krieg wrote:
aoidaiki wrote:
The_Krieg wrote:

40 people showing up for an event isn't exactly monumental.  

Right, but it wasn't 40 and that wasn't the point I was making.

 

Whatever number you are citing is irrelevant because it is nominal at best.

 

Everyone can say that their hometown "chess club has more members than ever before"  That's meaningless.  If a club had 2 members traditionally and suddenly there's 2 more members... OMG.   a 100% increase because chess has become so popular.  see this support the argument that chess is so popular and main stream now.  

 

Give me break.  there are a lot of refutable "reasons" being tossed around to justify the sudden exponential increase in chess.com daily user numbers.  However, the fact is that none of those purported reasons make sense.  And citing increase in membership at hometown chess events without actual numbers is akin to similar to saying that chess has increased so much in popularity that suddenly there are so many more good and great players worldwide.  

 

The truth is the 99% level of chess is populated by the same players who populated that pool within the last 3-5 years.  we dont have tens of thousands of new players suddenly popping into the 99%.  By its very definition, that can't happen by a regular course of events.  Instead the bell curve shapes drastically front end weighted with very few top level players.  However, that doesn't match the actual user increase seen on Chess.com.  many of the new accounts are suddenly 99% level players...  so is it really an exponential growth in daily user numbers because of increased popularity worldwide or is it something else entirely???

First of all, I was responding to "Take a look around you... NOTHING IS HAPPENING IN CHESS" which I quoted, so you should know. I was telling you that around me there is stuff happening in chess. Clubs that went from 5 to 40, tournaments that set records.

And the (extremely obvious) point is that if this is happening everywhere (and my post elaborated on evidence for that) then it adds up. Stop pretending you're so stupid that you don't understand this.

Secondly, the average rating has continued to drop. It is now below 700. Half a year ago it was around 730 or so, so you're wrong that there is an unusual number of strong players joining.

aoidaiki
The_Krieg wrote:
aoidaiki wrote:

I get the feeling you recently learned the word "exponential" and now you're using it every chance you get.

 

Exponential adequately describes the recent increase in daily user activity on chess.com

 

It is not incrementally larger... it is exponentially larger

Going from 100K to one million is one multiple of 10.

log10(10) = 1... the exponent is one. lol

The_Krieg
JosiahForReal22 wrote:
This is a very interesting topic. I’m just happy people are enjoying chess

 

That's actually debatable...  people are not enjoying chess anymore than they were a few years ago.  no one is running to get their best friends, family or neighbors playing chess online on chess.com..  there's no incentive to do that and nothing is driving that growth.  So the exponential growth in daily user numbers remains unexplained by chess.com

 

It is a legitimate question to ask why the daily user activity has gone up so much in such a short period of time.  I mentioned Twitter because social media platforms experienced similar exponential growth until they did an internal analysis of user and overall activity site wide.  What they discovered was fascinating because it identified a problem unknown and virtually unspoken ... 

aoidaiki
The_Krieg wrote:
aoidaiki wrote:

I guess I'm unblocked... for now...

 

I didn't block anyone from this forum topic.  

 

It was probably a Mod censoring you because you might have alluded to an off limits topic.

 

Stay on topic and you won't get silenced by chess.com mods.  simple 

If you make your trolling that obvious I wont bother responding to you.

The_Krieg
aoidaiki wrote:
The_Krieg wrote:
aoidaiki wrote:

I guess I'm unblocked... for now...

 

I didn't block anyone from this forum topic.  

 

It was probably a Mod censoring you because you might have alluded to an off limits topic.

 

Stay on topic and you won't get silenced by chess.com mods.  simple 

If you make your trolling that obvious I wont bother responding to you.

 

I only speak the truth.

 

Chess.com mods will block or silence you arbitrarily for comments that are deemed to violate some unspoken policy or if your comments touch on topics barred by chess.com mods.  

It is also a fact that I have not blocked anyone on this thread topic nor have I asked for anyone to be silenced.  There are many strange things happening on chess.com due to the server crashes, including games stopping working mid game.  so if you want to attribute it to anything, then you might want to start with the unusual exponential increase in daily user numbers as a reason for the server crashes.  

 

If you receive a 505 Error, then don't pretend that some member online is out to get you by disconnecting you from the site.  Instead, accept the fact that the 505 error is being caused by a lack of server capacity instead.  

You don't have to respond to my statement because its a known fact so arguing against it is futile.

Hedgehog1963
The_Krieg wrote:
Hedgehog1963 wrote:

The local chess club here in Preston, UK has had a significant increase in new people turning up this winter.

 

what do you mean by "significant" 

significant
/sɪɡˈnɪfɪk(ə)nt/

adjective

Sufficiently great or important to be worthy of attention; noteworthy.

The_Krieg
Hedgehog1963 wrote:
The_Krieg wrote:
Hedgehog1963 wrote:

The local chess club here in Preston, UK has had a significant increase in new people turning up this winter.

 

what do you mean by "significant" 

significant
/sɪɡˈnɪfɪk(ə)nt/

adjective

Sufficiently great or important to be worthy of attention; noteworthy.

 

 I understand the meaning of significant as a term.  However, I am specifically asking what does he mean by "significant"  How many?  What is the increase being cited to support the argument that chess.com user activity is being driven by this mass increase in interest in chess.  So what is the number?

The_Krieg
toxic_internet wrote:
kangusmangus wrote:

Probably but I also see a huge amount of views on YouTube and saw how the algorithm drew me in… saying Andrew tate and queens gambit aren’t relevant is REALLY ignorant too… also blocking people in a forum for giving counter arguments just makes me doubt the guys intelligence at this point 😂

He's a 2000+ rated blitz player.  Somehow I doubt the opinions of a trash-talking 400-ish scrub make any difference to him.

 

Yes...  uh...  2100+ now.  actually

 

But Im sure he gets the point well taken 

justbefair

I look at the Daily Puzzle numbers and can't understand how it went from having 5,000 people a day solve it in the first half of 2022 (through May and June of 2022) to more than a million by Decemeber and two million a day for most of this month. (February 2023)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/daily-puzzle-solved-by-nearly-a-million-daily