Why is clockless chess not a thing anymore?

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V_Awful_Chess

In MTG you have to make your moves in reasonable time though. There is no hard rule but playing too slowly can get you a slow-play warning.

The only reason MTG doesn't have chess clocks is that implementing them would be impractical.

When it became possible, card game websites often implement chess clocks: like on Master Duel.

Iichess-007
The_Blue_J wrote:
DjVortex wrote:
Iichess-007 wrote:

Tbf I like OP’s idea. Because if I get in a losing position I can refuse to move until they get bored and resign so I win

You can then not play with that person ever again. Who would even want to socialize with such a person?

Doesn't matter for some people, they get the win anyway...

yes exactly. Winning is all that matters for me

DjVortex
V_Awful_Chess wrote:

In MTG you have to make your moves in reasonable time though. There is no hard rule but playing too slowly can get you a slow-play warning.

By whom? Kitchen table MtG doesn't have judges. It's casual, friendly and sociable.

Casual chess, on the other hand... Yeah, maybe in some places in the world people still remember that clocks are optional. I have yet to meet such people in real life here.

Jenium

Depends if you want to play chess as a sport or as a social activity. I stopped playing "socially" against strangers after being challenged a couple of times by "chess players" at parties who barely knew the rules and took ages to move.

SriyoTheGreat

Clockless chess still exists. Almost everyone in my locality plays chess without clocks. The only place where clocks come in, are professional environments and online. Each have their own reasons, in professional environments, game organizers usually have to fit in a number of games in a given period of time, so for this, time restrictions are important. Online, game abandonment has become a big problem, people just "walk off" the game when they find they are losing. To prevent this, timing games online is necessary.

DjVortex

The clock is just so utterly frustrating. Take this game I just played, for example. You can skip to the end if you'll like (how the game went isn't really the point, my main point is the ending position). It would have been so interesting to see if I could win this game against this opponent when I'm up a bishop for a pawn. Not a trivial win at all. But that will never happen because the clock stopped me. Once again, a very interesting and challenging position ruined by the clock. (Sure, I could continue the game with an engine, but it wouldn't be the same. It would be impossible to match the strength and experience of this particular opponent.)

bellachesspro2

Hey there! I think it’s mostly because clocks add a bit of excitement and keep games moving along. Plus, with so many people playing online, time controls help keep things fair and competitive. But I totally get the nostalgia for those relaxed, clockless games! 😊 What do you think?

ArturGajewski

DjVortex, if you are from Helsinki you might want to check out Oodi library where they have chess tables at the library lobby and there are no clocks unless you bring your own. People play chess and take their time without time controls. Lately I have been playing more chess with no time control than with one.

Willard720
danielzhukovin wrote:
If you ask me (and nobody asked me), short times like 15 minutes for chess are bad for the brain…That’s because I know it to be a fact. It doesn’t recruit as much of the brain as chess games with longer time limits.
People who rush mental processes are prone to becoming people who hate to think of a lot at once, or very deeply.
Visualization, mental energy, resilience, self-control, emotional regulation, focus, memory, partial abstraction, critical thinking, reasoning, analysis, problem solving, are some of the full gamut of mental abilities for completely understanding a chess game and being a chess player which takes a minimum time to kick in.
Chess is a game that needs at least around one hour per game for this reason.

BAD for the brain? Its one thing to say its not AS good as classical, but BAD? You're telling me I'm going to rot my brain by playing 10 minute chess?? What are you talking about, you're gonna need a source for such a horrible take