Why is higher Blitz rating harder to get?

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MitSud
Well Nakas over 3000, so we just need to all turn into Naka, problem solved
wadoodullah

(what if rapid rating is less than blitz rating? does it mean that the player always wins by fluke? It definitely means that that player makes lot of dubious moves but I think it also means that such players can capitalize on opponents blunders not on mistakes.)

May be they don't have the patience to wait for opponent move in rapid friendly matches but at some stage where win really matters a good blitz player can wait for hours and apply him in long game as well

 
 
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wadoodullah

Speed of thought just needs experience and recognition of pattern if you have these things 10 minutes even is very long time for one game. One other more important thing is you can only prepare  yourself for one time control it is very hard if you are playing 10min +15 sec game from month to play for 10 minute game as your calculation habbits don't allow you it is relatively less difficult but still tough to go from smaller to large time controls

danielhatchman

Yeah it definitely seems to be that blitz pool is stronger. If anything I see a lot of tactics pretty quick but I'm only just passable at positional chess. When it comes to slow chess I often get bored and hang a lot of pieces. Sometimes even more than in blitz. Yet still I'm 300pt higher in Slow chess. The blitz field must be stronger for sure.

Deranged

At low ratings, the blitz pool seems to be tougher than the rapid pool. But at higher ratings, I think it becomes the opposite.

I'm 1950 blitz and only 1700 rapid.

My theory is that most people transition from rapid to blitz once they hit a certain point (usually around 1500+ rating), so when you do get rapid games above this, it's usually from people who have played a tonne of blitz games and are underrated in rapid. So your opponents suddenly get exponentially better at rapid once you move up to 1500+.

ESP-918

Blitz pool has the strongest players all around the world , especially 3|0 min is the toughest pool.

sndeww
Deranged wrote:

At low ratings, the blitz pool seems to be tougher than the rapid pool. But at higher ratings, I think it becomes the opposite.

I'm 1950 blitz and only 1700 rapid.

My theory is that most people transition from rapid to blitz once they hit a certain point (usually around 1500+ rating), so when you do get rapid games above this, it's usually from people who have played a tonne of blitz games and are underrated in rapid. So your opponents suddenly get exponentially better at rapid once you move up to 1500+.

actually that makes a lot of sense. I was wondering why it was so hard to grind rapid as a blitz player 

sndeww
ESP-918 wrote:

Blitz pool has the strongest players all around the world , especially 3|0 min is the toughest pool.

yes, it made me drop 50 points in a day happy.png

Zweb

Blitz ratings are interesting. I have spent a lot of time around 1700-1800 and am currently in the 1900s.

I think 1700-1800 blitz players mostly have great tactical vision and very little strategic or positional knowledge.

Around 1900-2000 players have much stronger strategy, openings, positional play but are weaker at tactics. I actually prefer playing these players as a sharp player myself.

I imagine around 2100+ is where people start to have a combination of good strategy and good tactical vision. For example I have noticed several players in my area master strength are over 2500 on chess.com when they wouldn't have similar performance OTB so also at a certain point I think tactical vision reigns supreme.

sndeww

My playstyle got less spicy the higher my blitz rating went. It just wasn't plausible to sac the entire queenside to go on a speculative king hunt.

Deranged
SNUDOO wrote:

My playstyle got less spicy the higher my blitz rating went. It just wasn't plausible to sac the entire queenside to go on a speculative king hunt.

Yeah this is happening to me, too. I love playing super aggressively, but recently, I've found myself holding back a lot and not overextending my pawns too much. The old strategy of just going all out attack and hoping my opponent blunders a forced mate, just doesn't seem feasible anymore.

sndeww

I know, it's sad sad.png

NotOldManSteve

I've been addicted to blitz for a month--a 1000 games.  At 3 minutes 10 sec increment was in a pinball machine working my way down to 550 rating with blunders, and when I switched to 5 minutes 5 sec increment I am around 800- yes, I'm terrible either way but my play is way better with more time.  And at 15 minute rapid I only play a little better but my rating has stuck around 1150 for months even if I play infrequently.  So either the blitz players are better in all regards, or they use their time much better than me, or  both.  I think the 800 blitz players make moves about as well as the 1100 rapid players, but they just think faster

LaughingHome

wow that's my story

sndeww
little_guinea_pig wrote:
Deranged wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

My playstyle got less spicy the higher my blitz rating went. It just wasn't plausible to sac the entire queenside to go on a speculative king hunt.

Yeah this is happening to me, too. I love playing super aggressively, but recently, I've found myself holding back a lot and not overextending my pawns too much. The old strategy of just going all out attack and hoping my opponent blunders a forced mate, just doesn't seem feasible anymore.

Normally I play extremely aggressively, always looking for the Tak-like sac etc, when I do that I play like a 1600. Recently I've been playing more calmly and positionally, haven't got as many combinations but it has done wonders for my rating

I stopped calculating almost completely lol

sndeww
little_guinea_pig wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:
Deranged wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

My playstyle got less spicy the higher my blitz rating went. It just wasn't plausible to sac the entire queenside to go on a speculative king hunt.

Yeah this is happening to me, too. I love playing super aggressively, but recently, I've found myself holding back a lot and not overextending my pawns too much. The old strategy of just going all out attack and hoping my opponent blunders a forced mate, just doesn't seem feasible anymore.

Normally I play extremely aggressively, always looking for the Tak-like sac etc, when I do that I play like a 1600. Recently I've been playing more calmly and positionally, haven't got as many combinations but it has done wonders for my rating

I stopped calculating almost completely lol

I never calculated in the first place, it was more "ooh after this move I have three pieces near his king and he has none!" No wonder I lost so many games...

I just go autopilot mode until I "feel" like there are tactics, before starting to calculate.

sndeww

I grind positions, place my pieces on good squares, carry out standard plans. I just love positions where my opponent makes weak square complexes, so I almost always win games like those. I just put knights there and harass my opponent.

sndeww
little_guinea_pig wrote:

My secret weapon is the "sac that is unsound but makes the opponent spend a ton of time thinking about it." You wouldn't believe how many people don't have premoves enabled!

I actually fell victim to one of those - except I was up material, up in time, and I simply panicked and therefore lost. #feelsbadman

OrVeee

Yeah,,,,I agree! My Rapid rating is 1056! But I'm stuck at (800-900), on blitz games(5 mins). This is so painful sad.png

Elroch

Different people have different strengths.