Why is Nakamura not playing the US Championship?

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llama47

But yeah, it's not fun to sh!t on Naka all day long, I'll have to stop posting here.

llama47
aidenparadis wrote:

really don't like Naka

This

llama47
royalknight101 wrote:
llama47 wrote:

You have to be Russian to get the wild card, like when they cheated MVL twice by giving it to Kramnik and Aleksenko... IMO of course.

i swear i am sad mvl couldnt get in, super happy radjabov quitted cause even thou i wanted both to be in it we cant deny that MVL really tried so much harder to get there risking his points and going to lots of events

Yeah, and he got to play, which was fun. He was even tied for 1st during the COVID break as I recall. Too bad Nepo won. He's never been over 2800 in his life... which is a meaningless comment to make about someone in pretty much 100% of situations except for when they're going against the world champ who has been over 2800 every day since the age of 18.

llama47
royalknight101 wrote:

i am pretty sure some people like giri didnt even do anything, they just stayed back and got in by chilling while other people pretty much struggled through brick stone just to win and at the end it didnt matter as they couldnt get in ;-;

Yeah, like when Kramnik qualified one year I think it was because his average rating was the highest among blah blah blah.

But he only played 2 events the whole freakin year. One of them was good, then he sat on his rating for 8 months and got a high average.

DiogenesDue
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
He’s been avoiding classical. The last two years he competed in classical chess he lost over 50 rating points and has almost dropped out of the top 20 in the world. He hasn’t been top 10 in a decade. A lot of the US Championship field specializes in classical, so he might not do very well.

This.

DiogenesDue
IMBacon wrote:

Naka had said years ago that winning the title isn't that important to him.  If he is making more money streaming?  Then why take away from that?

He also said he was the answer to Sauron/Magnus wink.png.  Let's keep it real.  Nakamura has always invited and fanned the flames of the notion that he was a legit WCC contender.  He wasn't, and isn't, and his professional chess career is taking the back seat now.

llama47

Oh, I didn't even know Korchnoi played a match with Kramnik... but yeah, I know some of Korchnoi's life story, and it's sad that he had so many hardships and was extremely close to being champ but didn't make it.

I knew Aronian and Rapport didn't have a lot of support, but I didn't know that was true of Ding as well.

DiogenesDue
llama47 wrote:

Oh, I didn't even know Korchnoi played a match with Kramnik... but yeah, I know some of Korchnoi's life story, and it's sad that he had so many hardships and was extremely close to being champ but didn't make it.

I knew Aronian and Rapport didn't have a lot of support, but I didn't know that was true of Ding as well.

Korchnoi also went off on Judit Polgar for beating him, and was famous for "accidently" kicking people under the table during games to irritate them, so...it's a mixed bag.

rychessmaster1
RussPlaysBad wrote:

You can't literally not care and be scared of dropping below 2700. 

I’m not but thanks for the concern! 

DiogenesDue
royalknight101 wrote:

tbf most players from the soviets were negatively impacted by the government and punished severely if they lost, there was one person i forgot but i feel bad for him and also fischer was concerned to what would happen to him

There are two choices to be made all through life while making decisions, and there are those who pass along the misery they get in life, and those who try to make things better somehow.  Korchnoi was the former, at least a good portion of the time.

DiogenesDue
royalknight101 wrote:

yeah but from the situations and punishments they lived in, its hard to not sympathize and understand why they act so cruel and negative towards others

Ironically, if Korchnoi had had more sympathy for others, he would not need your sympathy wink.png.

IMKeto
royalknight101 wrote:
llama47 wrote:
royalknight101 wrote:

i am pretty sure some people like giri didnt even do anything, they just stayed back and got in by chilling while other people pretty much struggled through brick stone just to win and at the end it didnt matter as they couldnt get in ;-;

Yeah, like when Kramnik qualified one year I think it was because his average rating was the highest among blah blah blah.

But he only played 2 events the whole freakin year. One of them was good, then he sat on his rating for 8 months and got a high average.

its pretty tragic tbh and when you look more into the past you kinda feel bad for people like korchnoi mostly due to hard factors in his match against kramnik and how he could have possibly been world champion. you may also say the same thing for people like ding, rapport, and especially levon aronian in the aspect that they never had much resources to work with and still got in by hard work and determination towards the elite level.

Korchnoi was my first favorite player.  After reading about him, and what he accomplished all while his wife and son here not allowed to leave the USSR.  How mentally tough did he have to be?  He is one of the greatest of all time. 

DiogenesDue
IMBacon wrote:

Korchnoi was my first favorite player.  After reading about him, and what he accomplished all while his wife and son here not allowed to leave the USSR.  How mentally tough did he have to be?  He is one of the greatest of all time. 

In the case of Korchnoi, like Bobby Fischer, I like the chess player, not the man personally. 

Spassky was a good person, but a more forget-able player.

IMKeto
btickler wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

Korchnoi was my first favorite player.  After reading about him, and what he accomplished all while his wife and son here not allowed to leave the USSR.  How mentally tough did he have to be?  He is one of the greatest of all time. 

In the case of Korchnoi, like Bobby Fischer, I like the chess player, not the man personally. 

Spassky was a good person, but a more forget-able player.

I had the pleasure to meet Spassky back in 1978 at a tournament.  He lives up to the reputation.  A true gentleman.

llama47

Everyone who's told me a story of meeting Karpov said he was humble and nice.

And the opposite for Kasparov heh.

One story they were shooting a chess commercial, and Kasparov was there. If he found out you knew something about chess, he wouldn't leave you alone, and tell you stories non stop, all about how great he was, or how he won this or that game.

NikkiLikeChikki
@llama… on the other hand, I heard Karpov was a monarchist (or was that Spassky?), while Kasparov has been a strong advocate for democracy, human rights, anti-corruption, and stuff that generally would make the world a better place. Just because he’s egotistical and self-absorbed, the measure of “better person” depends upon the criteria you use.
IMKeto
llama47 wrote:

Everyone who's told me a story of meeting Karpov said he was humble and nice.

And the opposite for Kasparov heh.

One story they were shooting a chess commercial, and Kasparov was there. If he found out you knew something about chess, he wouldn't leave you alone, and tell you stories non stop, all about how great he was, or how he won this or that game.

A friend paid to have the honor playing Karpov in a simul .  He said he was an extremely nice guy.

nighteyes1234
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
@llama… on the other hand, I heard Karpov was a monarchist (or was that Spassky?), while Kasparov has been a strong advocate for democracy, human rights, anti-corruption, and stuff that generally would make the world a better place. Just because he’s egotistical and self-absorbed, the measure of “better person” depends upon the criteria you use.

 

what? The front of the Soviets was a human rights guy? Thats for the laugh,,,the gullibility is amazing.

IMKeto
royalknight101 wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
llama47 wrote:

Everyone who's told me a story of meeting Karpov said he was humble and nice.

And the opposite for Kasparov heh.

One story they were shooting a chess commercial, and Kasparov was there. If he found out you knew something about chess, he wouldn't leave you alone, and tell you stories non stop, all about how great he was, or how he won this or that game.

A friend paid to have the honor playing Karpov in a simul .  He said he was an extremely nice guy.

isnt karpov a very political person tho?

I wasnt there so all i can do is relay what i was told.

IMKeto
royalknight101 wrote:

i mean korchnoi did describe karpov as someone who favored the soviets and craved everything they always did from the government, power and whatever

That i have read.  Karpov was part of the young guard of new players, so the older players were pushed aside and not given the support they were used to.