"The truth is , he is no better than all else"
This is a common conclusion, but I think that is to exaggerate quite a bit. Carlsen played a quick draw against MVL = he is no better than all else.
My impression is that Carlsen is much less prone to quick draws than the other top players, and not particularly prone to play the sort of games for example Mamedyarov and Radjabov have played every time they have faced each other the last decade.
"Playing pre-analysed lines that lead to a forced draw with your friend is almost equivalent, if not exactly the same, with preagreeing draw"
How does the opening lead to a forced draw? The position is in no way a forced draw, both players could have deviated if they had wanted to. All engines give white the advantage, but he preferred to go for the draw. Carlsen could have deviated but preferred to play the best move. Such things happen.
@deirdreskye
So they found a way for white to kill the game. So what? There are lots of those.
It was MVL's fault to play that way, he had white and made those decisions.
Carlsen could have avoided it by purposefully giving himself a near-losing (or lost) position, but that would have been dumb.
Carlsen could have acted like this was a must win game, and gone for a difficult position from move 1, but it wasn't a must win game, plus he has a WCC match coming up. He should save any good desperation-with-black ideas for then.
It is really amazing that no one accuses Carlsen. He can do anything he wants and gets away with it.
MVL'S fault?Yeah sure. MVL's fault indeed. Carlsen is just a kid that was lured in the pre-analysed draw. He could do nothing to avoid it.
I'm overselling the MVL killed the game thing, but ok, lets get specific.
I'm familiar with the position up to 9.Nc3. That's been played for a number of years. After that I'm not sure though. Maybe you want to criticize developing the bishop to e6? I guess. But what seemed really stale to me was white's 11.b4. To me that seems to make the position super boring. White's not even trying for an advantage.
And then, of course, the whole Bg5-d2 thing. That was initiated by MVL.
The fact remains :When you accuse others that they draw without playing , you can't play pre-analysed lines with your friend because that is also "draw without playing".
What are you talking about? He never said he doesn't go for a draw as black. All top players do this regularly.
If Karjakin called Mamedyarov in his room to analyse some lines and the next day they drew their game with a line they analysed the previous night , would that be ok? It would be exactly what Carlsen and MVL did , no?
Maybe you misunderstand analyzed together. Analysis isn't agreeing to play moves, and it's not agreeing to the result of the game beforehand, it's just agreeing about the evaluation.
No one even takes into consideration that Mamedyarov maybe was in pain and Karjaking probably politely accepted to give him the draw. Something ALL of us would do. I would never play to win against someone that is sick or in pain , would you?
What does that have to do with it? The fact that Mame has done it in the past isn't the point, and no one is claiming he definitely did it in Norway. The point you're trying to make is that Carlsen is a hypocrite, but you have no proof that he's done prearranged draws, only used analysis to play for a draw with black (which everyone has done for at least 100 years...)