GnrfFrtzl wrote:
he should retire because he's at the top. That's when one should retire.
Carlsen shouldn't retire! That's a terrible idea!
Why is Vishwanathan Anand so bad?
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Maybe it was Anand, but it was some top player who said in an interview that there is a certain level of performance you expect from your play, and when you're too old to perform at that level anymore that's when you should retire.
So for some players, as along as they're happy, they might never retire.
0110001101101000 wrote:
Carlsen hasn't even peaked yet.
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
he should retire because he's at the top. That's when one should retire.
Carlsen shouldn't retire! That's a terrible idea!
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0110001101101000 wrote: Out of curiosity I looked on chessgames.com for games later than 2009 and got
4 wins 9 losses and 30 draws (although I had to count which were classical so I might be off on the draws, but I'm pretty sure I got the decisive games right).
And of course if you only look at the world chess championship games the record is 1 win, 6 losses, 14 draws.
4 wins, 9 losses isn't too bad for Anand, though it is a bit one-sided, for sure. Hikaru has a much more lopsided record against Magnus, if I remember correctly (1 win, 12 losses).
We've only seen Magnus play against Anand in the WC matches so far, so it's hard to tell how he'll do against Karjakin.
It could well be that Karjakin might only manage to win a single game against Carlsen, as well. :-O
0110001101101000 wrote:
Don't turn my words upside down. Look at Kasparov or Polgár. Both retired while still at the top, and will forever be remembered as such. I think that's what Anand should do.
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
he should retire because he's at the top. That's when one should retire.
Carlsen shouldn't retire! That's a terrible idea!
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#27
Anand's been one of the top ten players in the world since 1991.
25 years at the top, and still going.
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#28
Kasparov had lost world championship when he retired.. only guys to be the best in the world and retire in their real prime were Bobby Fischer and Paul Morphy
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#29
personally I have more respect for guys such as korchnoi who continue to battle.. why let your ego get in the way of playing top level chess.. or even pro level
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#30
I guess anyone over 50 should retire from tournament play... that's the dumbest thing I've heard
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lutak22 wrote:
I really admire Korchnoi, he had real passion for chess
personally I have more respect for guys such as korchnoi who continue to battle.. why let your ego get in the way of playing top level chess.. or even pro level
Don't turn my words upside down. Look at Kasparov or Polgár. Both retired while still at the top, and will forever be remembered as such. I think that's what Anand should do.
Are you having a laugh or are you really that dumb/clueless? Judith Polgar came back to chess with a bang after motherhood. Everyone thought she would retire to look after her kids but she said she loved chess so why would she retire? Maybe she has retired of sorts since but in no way would someone think she was better for retiring.
Don't speak for other people. I'm pretty sure almost nobody remembers Kasparov and Polgar as "retiring at the top" in a positive way, they don't remember any top player like Morphy or Fischer retiring at the top in a positive light. You're on your own. It's not as if if they quit a person remains at the same skill level.
I can see your suggestion making sense for an old boxer who was always used to being number 1. But only they can decide what motivates them and what they want to do, if he wants to play then that's what he should do.
Carlson is not bad
I am better than kasparov
lutak22 wrote:
Korchnoi is also remembered as a frustated shouting old man when someone younger beat him.
personally I have more respect for guys such as korchnoi who continue to battle.. why let your ego get in the way of playing top level chess.. or even pro level
lutak22 wrote:
That's nowhere near of what I said, but whatever.
I guess anyone over 50 should retire from tournament play... that's the dumbest thing I've heard
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
lutak22 wrote:
I guess anyone over 50 should retire from tournament play... that's the dumbest thing I've heard
That's nowhere near of what I said, but whatever.
This stupid message board is giving me problems, see my edited post above please.
Uhohspaghettio1 wrote:
Uhohspaghettio1 wrote: Don't turn my words upside down. Look at Kasparov or Polgár. Both retired while still at the top, and will forever be remembered as such. I think that's what Anand should do.Are you having a laugh or are you really that dumb/clueless?
Can't really continue this if you for one trying to turn my words around and then you go full youtube comment section style. Did I call you dumb or clueless? Dude, calm it. No need for this language. We're all adults.
Don't turn my words upside down. Look at Kasparov or Polgár. Both retired while still at the top, and will forever be remembered as such. I think that's what Anand should do.
Are you having a laugh or are you really that dumb/clueless? Judith Polgar came back to chess with a bang after motherhood. Everyone thought she would retire to look after her kids but she said she loved chess so why would she retire? Maybe she has retired of sorts since but in no way would someone think she was better for retiring.
Don't speak for other people. I'm pretty sure almost nobody remembers Kasparov and Polgar as "retiring at the top" in a positive way, they don't remember any top player like Morphy or Fischer retiring at the top in a positive light. You're on your own. It's not as if if they quit a person remains at the same skill level.
I can see your suggestion making sense for an old boxer who was always used to being number 1. But only they can decide what motivates them and what they want to do, if he wants to play then that's what he should do.
You didn't call me dumb but you said Anand and other people at the top past their peak should retire.
I did not say Anand should retire because he's not as good as he used to be. I think he should retire because he's still at the top. That's when one should retire.