Why lose points for stalemates?

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Gimpalersan wrote:

Think about it from the losing side. If you are playing a game and make a blunder, then you should hope for at least a stalemate. There is nothing wrong with this strategy. If the player beating you is not good enough to avoid stalemate, they should not be considered as higher in skill than you are. 

Exactly!

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Markle wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
MJ4H wrote:

One mistake is to think of ratings as "points."  It isn't a scoreboard, it's a relative measurement of your strength in chess based on the results of games you've played.  A draw vs. a lower-rated player is an additional piece of information that the rating system has to adjust your rating towards where it should be based on how you've played.

Don't think of a rating as "points."

Well this is Chess.com and as skiled as they are in Mating they are also just as skilled in Drawing. I can not count the number of times i had 2 options that looked like mate but led to my opponent  having a chance to draw the game.

How i think about it is too many players like to draw so we have to think about the points as that is a lot of points as we play several games. And as lonk as we keep score in any game i think about the points. This is not  Pre-Season Football in the NFL.

Nothing worse then having a game won in every way just to miss a stinking move your opponent planned 3 moves ago because he knew he was going to lose... for the game to result in a draw. Which is becoming real popular here.

Losers are the only type of players that are ok with a DRAW! I feel the same even if we playing just for fun in any game. I give my kids no slack and same for their friends. Trust me they play me like they are adults when they were 8 years old.

Another point why lose points. Sandbaggers here. They will patiently wait for a chance to win points.

If your opponent planned a move 3 moves in advance that leads to a draw and you missed it then good for him, pay more attention to the game next time. Oh and by the way i must be one of the losers because i am fine with a draw against a higher rated opponent. The only thing that seems to be real popular on here is the number of people that bitch when something doesn't go their way

No it is those that work on their game to get a draw than to win the game and have gotten real good at it. They know at move 15 the game may be drawish with equal material so the go into draw mode while your kicking their ....... all around the board.

As the game goes along it all looks great as mate is coming. But your opponent knows this situation as he has seen hundreds of draw games where a GM was about to lose and draw the game. Plus add in that there are no books on how to avoid a draw. But plenty material on how to get a draw.

Now when i talk about a low rated player losing to a higher rated player on Chess.com. 80% of the time the lower rated player that got the draw and won points was SANDBAGGING! And if your not sure when the game ends they have something smart to say to insult your game. And if your still not sure watch their rank climb after your game! Then fall to a couple of players with a lower rank than them ...... bla bla bla as you should know this story by now!

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See having the game in a draw in this manner a couple of time is ..... maybe ok. But it is becoming a norm here. Right in the opening they look for lines that are drawish. I hear them talk about these lines in other threads all the time. I had to eliminate playing certain variations to avoid this happening. Sure that is what they wanted as to limit players options of lines to play. Making the game a bit more predictable.

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if the oppenent is the one who can't move then it should count as a win for me. There's been at least 10 times i'm playing with lower players and they pusporsly trap their king in the corner for staemate and then they get +2 or +4 or whatever and I get like -10. 

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i understand that stalemates are usually a indication of being on equal skill levels but when the person is ahead of you in material i feel like a stalemate should give points to the person who is lower in material cause they had to force a stalemate at disadvantage or it indicates the other persons lack of skill in that they didnt notice the stalemate

 

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TheFlamingAtlas123 wrote:

i understand that stalemates are usually a indication of being on equal skill levels but when the person is ahead of you in material i feel like a stalemate should give points to the person who is lower in material cause they had to force a stalemate at disadvantage or it indicates the other persons lack of skill in that they didnt notice the stalemate

 

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Xiaohao08 wrote:

if the oppenent is the one who can't move then it should count as a win for me. There's been at least 10 times i'm playing with lower players and they pusporsly trap their king in the corner for staemate and then they get +2 or +4 or whatever and I get like -10. 

     If this has happened TEN TIMES it just means that you are not learning anything from the games you play. For a beginner to fall into stalemate because they didn't know about it is understandable, but people that should know better need to admit that they blundered.