Why Men Dominate in the World of Chess

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f3d60cb4 wrote:

no one watched the whole video? it was short though.. typical. last generation..

he mentioned an important point toward to the end. he observed many children in different countries, where girls and boys had not much of a difference at chess, girls play as much as boys do.. but then some environmental effects kicks in..

it seems like a cultural effect.. we're doing this, it's not a natural thing. it doenst have to be that way. but it's easier to say that women are dumb.. right?

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Well for starters, mens and womens intellects are not the same.

In the UK when the exam system used to feature 'O Levels', pass rates were much higher for boys and girls very rarely passed.

Much research was done to understand why - these qualifications only had exams and no other grading material, it was found that men perform far better at exams due to being better at the same thing that affects statistical thinking and analysis.

On the other hand, they found that girls perfomed better in coursework and actually applying what they were learning outside of exam situations. Adding coursework to O Levels which is what turned them into the current GCSEs had a twofold impact - more boys began to fail, and more girls began to pass.

So chess is something that is much closer in brain work to an exam than it is to coursework, ot most definitely feels that way when playing it anyway.

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BlackKang wrote:

Well for starters, mens and womens intellects are not the same.

In the UK when the exam system used to feature 'O Levels', pass rates were much higher for boys and girls very rarely passed.

Much research was done to understand why - these qualifications only had exams and no other grading material, it was found that men perform far better at exams due to being better at the same thing that affects statistical thinking and analysis.

On the other hand, they found that girls perfomed better in coursework and actually applying what they were learning outside of exam situations. Adding coursework to O Levels which is what turned them into the current GCSEs had a twofold impact - more boys began to fail, and more girls began to pass.

So chess is something that is much closer in brain work to an exam than it is to coursework, ot most definitely feels that way when playing it anyway.

I'll translate: Bodacious Funyuns = bad chess

Which is why Asian women.... on second thought, I don't wanna get banned.

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asian women what?

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Men are more reckless so they tend to take more pieces.

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Men perform better under large amounts of mental and physical stress.

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f3d60cb4 wrote:
f3d60cb4 wrote:

no one watched the whole video? it was short though.. typical. last generation..

he mentioned an important point toward to the end. he observed many children in different countries, where girls and boys had not much of a difference at chess, girls play as much as boys do.. but then some environmental effects kicks in..

it seems like a cultural effect.. we're doing this, it's not a natural thing. it doenst have to be that way. but it's easier to say that women are dumb.. right?

It's not black and white. We know there are cultural differences but also some biological differences. Not as simple as "women are dumb".

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Levy Rozman from gothamchess said in his days as a chess teacher that he did notice that his male students were more likely to lock themselves in a room and study chess.

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Probably because historically women are told to do other things rather play this kind of stuff. We should encourage them to join us. And for anyone saying that men's nerves are faster or biologically smarter, where is the source?

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Camila1133 That is not an excuse today. Because there are many women who are now dedicating their lives to chess and they come no where near the top male players

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#30 proof? Like at all?
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Like something #26 did
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Camila1133 wrote:

Probably because historically women are told to do other things rather play this kind of stuff. We should encourage them to join us. And for anyone saying that men's nerves are faster or biologically smarter, where is the source?

It's pretty much common sense that there are differences, just a question how big. Plenty of data online.

Here's some article on science direct

"Sex differences in intelligence and brain size: A paradox resolved"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0191886994900302

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I don't know why the world today has a hard time admitting that men and woman are created different, and are created with different roles and responsibilities.

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JDC6123 wrote:

I don't know why the world today has a hard time admitting that men and woman are created different, and are created with different roles and responsibilities.

Alot of promotion of equality nowadays and some people dont know where to draw the line.

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#37 it’s been proved that IQ has nothing to do with your chess ability
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Slayerofbishopsandqueens wrote:
#37 it’s been proved that IQ has nothing to do with your chess ability

On the contrary, there is no doubt that there is a correlation between general intelligence and standard of chess. Most strongly if you include non-players as having the bottom standard of chess - people with low IQs are very unlikely to have any interest in playing chess. However, general intelligence explains only a small fraction of variation, especially if you restrict the sample to strong players. It could be that extreme specialisation, or having the most highly refined special skills needed for chess, is slightly detrimental to IQ as it is associated with less developed intelligence of types irrelevant to chess.

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Judit Polgar was one of the best players

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TheSwissPhoenix wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:

men are just better physiologically for some reason. people dont want to admit it but thats the case

if it weren't true then there would be alot more 2700 rated women

also there’s a LOT less women than men in the game: if the amount of people playing were equal I would think that the top female player would be near the same level as the top male player

The statistics suggest this is a dubious guess. It is rare for there to be a female player in the world top 100, but the proportion of players who are female is way higher than 1% (eg 14% of US rated players - can't seem to find global stats).