Why no wins with the black pieces in the TCEC Superfinal Houdini 5 vs Stockfish 8?

These 2 engines have already finished 67 games, and both machines have several wins against each other with the white pieces, but none with black and the rest are draws. What gives?

Nobody knows?

Neither. The referee will get angry and destroy both.

Anybody with a knowledgeable non troll answer?

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FK off sandbagger

Only trolls are knowledgeable here. The level of stupidity you can see in some threads (not this one) either makes you a misanthropist or a troll. Or both.

The trolls here are a big reason why ICC attracts more of the big names in chess. 

Thay are now at 72 rounds with 52 draws and Stockfish at +13 and Houdini at +8.

About 30% of the games are decisive!

Well, it seems that white has the advantage of playing first but it is strange to think it make such a difference.

But I think it is important to look at the openings also. Both engines won as white against the Dragon and also against the SLav! Stockfish won with the Kings Gambit Accepted Bishops Var.

I wont say it is because of the opening choices that only white has won so far. The black defenses are mostly solid. However some that I dont think is that solid ended in draws like the Blumenfeld counter gambit or the Dutch. 

Well for me it is nice to know that an open source engine is winning so far in the match.

Thanks for the legit response forrie. Yea, I just find it surprising that there are many white wins but 0 black wins.

yes and it is such a substantial amount of wins: 21 white wins out of 72 games.

I find it surprising that Stockfish could win as white with the Kings Gambit Acc Bishop Var. 

This is further proof that chess is a win for white. If chess is ever solved.

This is no proof that chess is a win for white.. There are two different engines so they can't play objectively the best moves, otherwise why would the engines be different? And you don't look at all the draws Houdini and Stockfish made against each other. It might as well be that chess is a draw with perfect play? All a matter of perspective

Game theory does prove that chess is a win for white though.

Chess theory doesn't prove that a chess game is a win for White, actually chess is still unresolved.

Indeed the view that a game of chess should end in a draw given best play prevails.

According to many chess legends such Steinitz, Capablanca, Lasker, Fine, Fischer, Kasparov chess is a drawn game.

^[ Watson said: "The proper result of a perfectly played chess game ... is a draw. ... Of course, I can't prove this, but I doubt that you can find a single strong player who would disagree"

With perfect play black can't win because he should cancel the first move advantage (0,3 points according to Stockfish) and then gain a sufficient advantage to win. if Black could do so it would mean that White would not have made the best moves, and even some inaccuracy.

White moves first.

I haven't seen the games, but as engines get stronger, the closer they get to proving that chess is a draw with best play. White has about a 35 elo point advantages due to the first move, but the draw margin is much larger than that.

http://www.pradu.us/old/Nov27_2008/Buzz/elotable.html

If computers aren't losing as white, it's because the errors they make are getting closer to perfect play.

Stockfish win in KGA proves the opening is completely sound. Im one of the skeptics that believe Black wins with best play.

Link to game / post game?