Why you shouldn't always resign after blundering a queen.

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Firethorn15 wrote:

Here is the Gordon-Jones game referred to above, with annotations by SonofPearl.

 

that's a crazy game, incredible how black came back then!

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Hmm as a 700 rating new player, losing a queen, be it me or the opponent usually results in a huge disadvantage and leads to ragequits. And I sometimes lose it in really obvious ways too. sad.png

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I was watching it live as I had picked up a prize in the U120 graded section and had to stay for prize giving. Despite not caring about who won, it was still extremely nerve-racking just being in the audience. Must have been terrifying for the players.

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cyborgsage escreveu:

Like others said, you did miss mate, and you did lose your queen, but you stuck with it! Good job on the win man. Nobody plays perfectly

Garry Kasparov plays ...

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Firethorn15 wrote:

Here is the Gordon-Jones game referred to above, with annotations by SonofPearl.

 

Please note: 20 minutes.

The ten seconds don't matter for this moment. 20 minutes is relatively short in terms of time controls. Of course people aren't going to resign. blitzing is always a risk and every second is treasured as if there won't ever be another second ever!

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XaMate wrote:

 

cyborgsage escreveu:

 

Like others said, you did miss mate, and you did lose your queen, but you stuck with it! Good job on the win man. Nobody plays perfectly

 

Garry Kasparov plays ...

 

No, he didn't.

*Deep Blue intensifies*

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Firethorn15 wrote:

Ignore Donirtha and SpiderUnicorn; they're clearly just trolling.

Really. All of my arguments were present and you just had to go for this assumption?

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TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Firethorn15 wrote:

 

Here is the Gordon-Jones game referred to above, with annotations by SonofPearl.

 

 

that's a crazy game, incredible how black came back then!

 

Yes. I wonder if the 20|10 inc. time control would agree too.

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Donirtha wrote:

Firethorn15 wrote:

Ignore Donirtha and SpiderUnicorn; they're clearly just trolling.

Really. All of my arguments were present and you just had to go for this assumption?

you are trolling

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TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

Firethorn15 wrote:

Ignore Donirtha and SpiderUnicorn; they're clearly just trolling.

Really. All of my arguments were present and you just had to go for this assumption?

 

you are trolling

 

So you're calling all of my arguments on how resigning isn't as bad as you think a joke?

I'm deeply offended.

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Donirtha wrote:

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

Firethorn15 wrote:

Ignore Donirtha and SpiderUnicorn; they're clearly just trolling.

Really. All of my arguments were present and you just had to go for this assumption?

 

you are trolling

 

So you're calling all of my arguments on how resigning isn't as bad as you think a joke?

I'm deeply offended.

yes you haven't provided any sound reasoning, you have merely trolled over and over.

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MasterofHumiliation wrote:

A couple of days ago, at our university. I watched an undergraduate blundered his queen and both of his bishops and still won the game. Wish I took a picture or a recording. I guess it's all about skill.

Eh, it's more of luck. Luck that is really sometimes bulls**t for your opponent. You see, skill is personal, meaning that whatever skill you have does not have an effect on others. That undergraduate didn't win because he played with skill, he won because his opponent played with stupidity.

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TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

Firethorn15 wrote:

Ignore Donirtha and SpiderUnicorn; they're clearly just trolling.

Really. All of my arguments were present and you just had to go for this assumption?

 

you are trolling

 

So you're calling all of my arguments on how resigning isn't as bad as you think a joke?

I'm deeply offended.

 

yes you haven't provided any sound reasoning, you have merely trolled over and over.

 

Now can blame you for trolling.

Has all of my reasons gone over your head? Have the last few weeks of me providing decent claims about why resigning isn't such a bad idea suddenly became nonexistent because you refuse to be lectured by someone with a lot more experience than you think? I've played chess for 8 years, and I've been in situations where resigning in lost positions actually helped me relax more for future rounds. And I've been trying to tell you that, even with such success in this game, you can't just play and pray to "God" or whoever you praise to give you instant success. Playing with hope isn't the right way. And resigning in lost positions can help you fare better both mentally and socially.

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Donirtha wrote:

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

Firethorn15 wrote:

Ignore Donirtha and SpiderUnicorn; they're clearly just trolling.

Really. All of my arguments were present and you just had to go for this assumption?

 

you are trolling

 

So you're calling all of my arguments on how resigning isn't as bad as you think a joke?

I'm deeply offended.

 

yes you haven't provided any sound reasoning, you have merely trolled over and over.

 

Now can blame you for trolling.

Has all of my reasons gone over your head? Have the last few weeks of me providing decent claims about why resigning isn't such a bad idea suddenly became nonexistent because you refuse to be lectured by someone with a lot more experience than you think? I've played chess for 8 years, and I've been in situations where resigning in lost positions actually helped me relax more for future rounds. And I've been trying to tell you that, even with such success in this game, you can't just play and pray to "God" or whoever you praise to give you instant success. Playing with hope isn't the right way. And resigning in lost positions can help you fare better both mentally and socially.

8 years is your experience. haha yes you are very experienced indeed. you're arguments are all troll arguments, clearly.

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What a strange argument indeed you guys. It's a forum classic..... you should have resigned, no i shouldn't have, yes you should have it's disrespectful, no because I won at the end, that's cause he played poorly, no I played well etc. The choice is easy, if you are a jedi, resign. If you are a sith, fight till the bitter end. In tournaments honestly just resign since you'll be giving yourself a headache trying to not lose a lost game, but on chess.com anything is possible.

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TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

Firethorn15 wrote:

Ignore Donirtha and SpiderUnicorn; they're clearly just trolling.

Really. All of my arguments were present and you just had to go for this assumption?

 

you are trolling

 

So you're calling all of my arguments on how resigning isn't as bad as you think a joke?

I'm deeply offended.

 

yes you haven't provided any sound reasoning, you have merely trolled over and over.

 

Now I can blame you for trolling.

Has all of my reasons gone over your head? Have the last few weeks of me providing decent claims about why resigning isn't such a bad idea suddenly became nonexistent because you refuse to be lectured by someone with a lot more experience than you think? I've played chess for 8 years, and I've been in situations where resigning in lost positions actually helped me relax more for future rounds. And I've been trying to tell you that, even with such success in this game, you can't just play and pray to "God" or whoever you praise to give you instant success. Playing with hope isn't the right way. And resigning in lost positions can help you fare better both mentally and socially.

 

8 years is your experience. haha yes you are very experienced indeed. you're arguments are all troll arguments, clearly.

 

So you're treating me like James Gunn. I see.

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Destroyer942 wrote:

What a strange argument indeed you guys. It's a forum classic..... you should have resigned, no i shouldn't have, yes you should have it's disrespectful, no because I won at the end, that's cause he played poorly, no I played well etc. The choice is easy, if you are a jedi, resign. If you are a sith, fight till the bitter end. In tournaments honestly just resign since you'll be giving yourself a headache trying to not lose a lost game, but on chess.com anything is possible.

sith till the end.

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Donirtha wrote:

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Donirtha wrote:

 

Firethorn15 wrote:

Ignore Donirtha and SpiderUnicorn; they're clearly just trolling.

Really. All of my arguments were present and you just had to go for this assumption?

 

you are trolling

 

So you're calling all of my arguments on how resigning isn't as bad as you think a joke?

I'm deeply offended.

 

yes you haven't provided any sound reasoning, you have merely trolled over and over.

 

Now I can blame you for trolling.

Has all of my reasons gone over your head? Have the last few weeks of me providing decent claims about why resigning isn't such a bad idea suddenly became nonexistent because you refuse to be lectured by someone with a lot more experience than you think? I've played chess for 8 years, and I've been in situations where resigning in lost positions actually helped me relax more for future rounds. And I've been trying to tell you that, even with such success in this game, you can't just play and pray to "God" or whoever you praise to give you instant success. Playing with hope isn't the right way. And resigning in lost positions can help you fare better both mentally and socially.

 

8 years is your experience. haha yes you are very experienced indeed. you're arguments are all troll arguments, clearly.

 

So you're treating me like James Gunn. I see.

you don't deserve to be treated like anything as you keep giving your troll replies with no logic behind them.

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21. ... I guess from white's point of view what material he has is in play (Rf1 same file as king say)
So if black does not demonstrate the value of his material advantage play on.
Clearly 21. ... Qb6+ attacking b2 would have been stronger.