Will computers ever solve chess?

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DiogenesDue
vickalan wrote:

Let me know if you are aware of an academic or scholarly paper that has concluded that chess cannot be solved. Or if you did the calculations I'd be interested in seeing them.

I'll just wait 18 years and laugh at you wink.png.

vickalan

Math doesn't work that way!null

Smellfungus
No
vickalan

Cool video @BallCrusher28, there's a lot you can do in 18 years.happy.png

DiogenesDue
vickalan wrote:

Math doesn't work that way!

Well, it sure doesn't work in any way that you have expounded upon in this thread...

You're like an astrologer commenting on the Hubble Telescope.  No, Mars is not in retrograde.  It's kind of funny, since normally someone so into chess variants might often also be the kind of person who might be seriously into math, but you (very clearly) are not.  I'm not seriously into math either...but as least I know a bunch of malarkey when someone is spouting it.  I can understand Einstein's relativity equations even if I would never have come up with them, etc.  You are back somewhere pre-Newton.  Nobody ever dropped an apple on your head.

LosingAndLearning81

Here is the problem...

 

Computers are not discriminatory in their analysis. There are so many fruitless rabbit holes that a computer is forced to go down that a human being would intuitively dismiss with a second thought. Computers lack intuition, so they dismiss nothing. We're talking every possible move in chess. The computer would have to analyze every possible move that could ever possibly be played in a chess game.

 

We don't even know if it's possible to construct a computer with that level of brute force calculation ability, let alone whether such a computer can solve chess.

DiogenesDue
BallCrusher28 wrote:

Just because you don't understand something
doesn't mean it's wrong,

Lol, ok "BallCrusher".  Have you even graduated high school yet?  Your username implies otherwise.

P.S. Your ranting further up the page is both ignorant and annoying...we're all discussing solving a game, which is clearly defined here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solved_game

If you think that solving games is a waste of time, then clearly posting half a dozen times on a forum discussing solving games is a bigger of waste of time for you personally.  So...there's the door -->

 

DiogenesDue
BallCrusher28 wrote:

keep crying, it's really effective?

You've posted twice as many posts as I have on this page of the thread, many of them consecutively in a rather manic-episodic kind of way, and resorted to all-caps numerous times.  Pot, kettle, black?

LosingAndLearning81

Looks like we have a lovers spat. You guys just get a room already. 

DiogenesDue
BallCrusher28 wrote:

I strongly suggest you don't try to quote me,
that's immature highschool stuff,
how old do you think you are?


 

I strongly suggest you stop arguing with memes...it makes you look like a millennial with a smartphone and no education.  Hey, what's Kim Kardashian up to today?

DiogenesDue
LosingAndLearning81 wrote:

Looks like we have a lovers spat. You guys just get a room already. 

...and added input from another sockpuppet/troll is also lame.  Dec 2017?  Shoo, run along now.  Come back when you hit forum puberty.

vickalan
btickler wrote:

...it makes you look like a millennial...

...Shoo, run along now...

Now you're letting everyone see why your opinion that computers will never solve chess has gone nowhere.null

DiogenesDue
vickalan wrote:
btickler wrote:

...it makes you look like a millennial...

...Shoo, run along now...

Now you're letting everyone see why your opinion that computers will never solve chess has gone nowhere.

18 years.

DiogenesDue
BallCrusher28 wrote:

you're taunts would be more effect buttickler,
if you weren't still wearing diapers...
STINK>> go take a shower, mrs. neckbeard.

Your age is showing, again.

vickalan
btickler wrote:

18 years...

...Your age is showing, again.

Stuff like this doesn't serve as a proof that chess can never be solved.null

hitthepin
Agreed.
Flank_Attacks

.."YouTube," published, 'Jan. 29, 2017' .. {a 42 min. lecture}

 

DiogenesDue
vickalan wrote:
btickler wrote:

18 years...

...Your age is showing, again.

Stuff like this doesn't serve as a proof that chess can never be solved.

It's been 2 days since I reiterated that I have never said chess cannot be solved.  In those 2 days since you have said that my position is that chess cannot be solved 3 times, and implied as much another 2-3 times.  This is the kind of intellect I am dealing with on this thread.  I can't even really think that it's just you strawmanning it at this point, that's giving you too much credit...I think you are just that incompetent.  You can't seem to keep a thought in your head more than a day at a time, much like sbog.  You read involved, in-depth posts and your head saturates in no time and you reduce the inputs to the lowest common denominator you can handle, ergo your tree/Venn graphs and all the gross simplifications.

DiogenesDue

Thanks for showing us yet again what this thread is worth after 200+ pages.

You've got to love the maturity and acumen of today's budding chess players...

DiogenesDue
BallCrusher28 wrote:

That's be funnier, if you weren't still in your parents basement.

Between the two of us, the odds are an order of magnitude (possibly 2 orders but that might be stretching it) in my favor that it would be you living in the basement...

I live in a house, and own another house outright.  Both paid off.  Neither have basements, because I don't live in a part of the country that still bothers with antiquated housing concepts like basements wink.png.