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Will computers ever solve chess?
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Jul 23, 2018
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troy7915 wrote:
A desire to have meaning in one”s life will render life meaningless.
No desire for meaning will also render life meaningless.
Rendering desire will meaning life one's renderful.
Preggo_Basashi wrote:
troy7915 wrote:
A desire to have meaning in one”s life will render life meaningless.
No desire for meaning will also render life meaningless.
I question that. No desire opens up a door where meaning is aplenty.
Hippies didn’t get ‘it’ either.
Jul 26, 2018
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#6349
s23bog wrote:
If white has a forced win, and every move that does not change the result of the game is considered to be equal, then every black move is essentially correct.
Your mind is in the right place, but consider some moves prolong checkmate longer than others, and gives White more opportunities to blunder.
It won’t be ruled based. What will happen is computers will show many lines as obsolete. Like the Pin variation of the Sicilian is a forced lose for black with best play. The Latvian Gambit will be next (if it isn’t already a proven forced loss). I read that computers have proven the King’s Gambit as a forced loss for white. However, a human could never memorize every variation as the tree is to complex for anything less than best moves.
So, if chess is ever “solved” it will just be flawed variations and flawed sub variations. The QGD, Nimzo and Sicilian will never be solvedas a win for white.
So solving ALL of chess isn’t possible.
DJsStudio wrote:
I read that computers have proven the King’s Gambit as a forced loss for white.
Where did you read this? Could it have been on Chessbase? Please stop spreading this rumor around. It's an April Fool's prank from years ago that some less than discerning chess players have been spreading as gospel ever since.
Really? I did not know that! That is entirely possible. I figured that Stockfish had gone through all possible moves of the sub variations and found advantages for White that were sizable enough to show wins for black.
Ill see if I can find the source.
...* advantages for black
Here you go. Sure doesn’t seem bogus.
https://en.chessbase.com/post/rajlich-busting-the-king-s-gambit-this-time-for-sure
DJsStudio wrote:
...* advantages for black
Haha, after reading the initial post I was beginning to wonder about the logic of the poster!
DJsStudio wrote:
Here you go. Sure doesn’t seem bogus.
https://en.chessbase.com/post/rajlich-busting-the-king-s-gambit-this-time-for-sure
That’s funny: he already gave you that link, and then you come up with the same one in response?!
No. There are more distinct 40 move games than there are atoms in the universe. Chess will not be solved by computers
Jul 26, 2018
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#6358
I think neural networks like leela chess,Alpha zero will be strong enough to solve chess withing next 5 years.The elo strength of such a AI will be around 4500
DJsStudio wrote:
Here you go. Sure doesn’t seem bogus.
https://en.chessbase.com/post/rajlich-busting-the-king-s-gambit-this-time-for-sure
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/im-rajlich-claims-kings-gambit-is-solved-by-rybka-cluster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Ox6H64yu8