Will computers ever solve chess?

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It doesn’t constitute a proof unless you show that for every move white can possibly make there exists a move for Black that draws. 

So it doesn’t matter if you think some lines are stupid. You still have to prove that black can draw against them. 

Now be gone troll. 

Staples - Terrible! Shame on you! S23 makes an EXCELLENT point. He and I are both talking about proper chess. Finding lines that are proven flawed or faulty is exactly HOW chess is proved drawn, won or lost. His example are excellent too.

Also, please save the Troll comments for the Trump supporters who deserve them. 

I’m sorry you don’t know what constitutes a mathematical proof.

In S23’s example all lines starting with e3 e6 then e4 e5 would be sufficiently proven if you can prove that 1. E4 E5 is drawn, but you must still prove the latter. Every possible line for white must be proven to have a drawing line for black .  You can’t just say that oh because the movie drops a piece it  we can automatically ignore it. That’s just not the case. 

A mathetmaical proof would require  either showing that all lines draw or that all moves for white fall into some basic “pattern” and thaen pattern draws. In any case the number of possible games is absolutely relevant  to solving chess, and anyone who suggests otherwise is clearly a troll. Now be quite moron, or switch to checkers which has been solved

You are rude

I’m rude? You insulted me!!!! And you randomly insulted trump supporters for not reason to. And I’m the rude one???????? Mods please ban this troll

It probably wasn't necessary to add the last sentence. It's not really chess related, and it seems divisive for no particular reason.  If you want to lump people into categories, what about people who do NOT support Trump, but support the president? What about them? What about the people who do not like him, but like what he is doing as president? Also, dont forget the Hillary supporters. Are they worthy of troll comments? So unless Trump finds a way to solve chess, it's probably not a good idea to randomly be involving him in this conversation.

 Haha! Not support Trump but support the president? Yet Trump is the president, so what they are supporting is the image that you are supposed to support your president-elect.  

 But the fact is that if you are not supporting Trump you are not supporting your President. We are not talking about supporting Trump when he goes to the bathroom or his other trivial activities, but Trump’s actions as President: they are one and the same. Negating one dismisses the other.

He’s only firing people when they don’t agree with his idiotic ideas. At first they fake it and at some point they tell it how they see it, contradiction the clown, and so they get fired. That clown is only thinking about his image and his bottom line. Not a shred of logic in that brain, generally speaking, just chaos. Just saying, it means nothing after all.

In actuality he drained his own swamp, firing people who he himself hired, over and over, for they would disagree with his confused brain. Even hired by him, you can hardly find one agreeing with his nonsense. But let that mascot be discussed in other places.

The problem is not his people: that man has not a shred of logic in his brain. His obsession with his own image took care of that. Moreover, his reluctance to say anything ‘bad’ about Putin indicates comproming material being held against him.

  Enjoy the show of someone boasting themselves and with kindergarten logic? Only the blind and the uneducated can do that, for they are children starring at a dangling toy.

If you’re going to get aggressive, I’ll get aggressive back. Name calling & attacking someone’s intellect opens you up to being called a Trump supporter, which, if you are, precludes you from being part of the conversation with adults. Which is another point of proof why you can’t understand how computers can solve chess without ever having to solve every position. 

Wow. What an awful human being this guy is. Mods please delete this post and ban this bigot. 

Some people cant help it. This is exactly what the moderators are talking about when they say some people are so passionate about something they HAVE to be aggressive and insulting. I see name calling, insults, and aggression coming from one side only. From a normal point of view it's totally unnecessary, but from the side that feels so strongly about their opinions, it's something they have to do.

Jack chess players have hack opinions. 

I support trump too, but a better place for him would be kindergarten, and not the presidency.

Has anybody seen that idiot who challenged Carlsen after only one month of preparation? The moron didn’t realize how long it takes a computer to create an algorithm with good and bad positions—an impossible task to finish in a month—let alone its useless memorization. 

 This clown thought because he can learn to do 50 pull-ups in one month and other trivial stuff, he could also beat the chess World Champion after one  month of ‘special’ preparation. He ended up with no preparation, dumb as a rock, chess-wise, and you might imagine the result if you haven’t heard of it.

  Haha! 

  It’s the pattern of identification: the opinion becomes oneself (and so it must be defended at all costs).