Will computers ever solve chess?

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reynaldo1234567


Computer needs electricity and batteries we just do it NIKE........

Ziryab
Maybe

https://www.sciencemagazinedigital.org/sciencemagazine/27_september_2019/MobilePagedReplica.action?u1=60108986&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=TXSCI2190926002&pm=1&folio=1364
DiogenesDue

Cool.  If a quantum leap does occur wink.png...then finally this thread could actually begin to be about something interesting, instead of 360 pages of refuting people that don't understand currently foreseeable computing and/or the 10^46 number.

pawn8888

I was thinking that one way to test if the game is a draw or not would be to have each side play exactly equal moves. Then keep playing and see what happens. It should be interesting, computers could do it. Program them to make a move that isn't better but equal. I guess the difficult part would be defining equal to a computer after that it might show something that proves a point.

Rooster_620
Did computers solve chess yet?
josephyossi

5 years later,

the question is unanswered

aaravp2000
Lol
aaravp2000
What if a human brain was put inside a machine?
Ziryab
josephyossi wrote:

5 years later,

the question is unanswered

 

 But, there have been breakthroughs in quantum computing.

IM_GGnoRE

Even with quantum computers chess can't be solved. As far as I know, quantum computers are only good at for example factorizing prime numbers but are not suitable for chess.

DiogenesDue

So we've lost 13+ pages of content since the last time I posted, assumedly due to banned/muted members...

IM_GGnoRE

Here is an article about that. Seems like quantum computers won't help us solve chess:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chadorzel/2017/04/17/what-sorts-of-problems-are-quantum-computers-good-for/#6a017220547a

blueemu
Howhorseymove wrote:
Suppose it could be proven mathematically that chess is a draw just like tic tac toe assuming that both sides play the best moves on each and every move. Do you think as a result that this could cause chess to die out or do you think people will play variants like Fischer random?

Why would anyone even care? Can YOU memorize the billions of billions of lines that it would take to force that draw against every move your opponent might play?

IM_GGnoRE
blueemu wrote:
Howhorseymove wrote:
Suppose it could be proven mathematically that chess is a draw just like tic tac toe assuming that both sides play the best moves on each and every move. Do you think as a result that this could cause chess to die out or do you think people will play variants like Fischer random?

Why would anyone even care? Can YOU memorize the billions of billions of lines that it would take to force that draw against every move your opponent might play?

Well, we do care. You are right. I also think that chess won't die out, because of that. Even in times of strong engines, people still find new ideas which engines can't find. I don't think that human creativity can be achieved by machines.

However that's not the point of this thread. The question is "Will computers ever solve chess?" and not "Will chess ever die out?". These are two different things.

SantaCruz2017

I don’t know why people think that Chess hasn’t been solved yet. There’s about 7.3 billion chess matches played every year. With the four major chess sites playing about 20 million a day. I notice a lot of the high computer play the French Open. I notice a lot of the high computer to play the French Defense. I used to not like that opening and now I play it a lot. Obviously you have to solve it for each different open.

IM_GGnoRE

@SantaCruz2017 According to AlphaZero the french is a bad opening.

Hi-I-Am-Alex

about 7k posts?

goodbye27

of course they will, brain is a machine so computers are.. its just a matter of time.

Chessflyfisher

Yes.

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