Will computers ever solve chess?
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Rooster_620
Sep 27, 2019
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#6801
Did computers solve chess yet?
5 years later,
the question is unanswered
Lol
What if a human brain was put inside a machine?
Jan 2, 2020
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#6805
josephyossi wrote:
5 years later,
the question is unanswered
But, there have been breakthroughs in quantum computing.
May 14, 2020
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#6806
Even with quantum computers chess can't be solved. As far as I know, quantum computers are only good at for example factorizing prime numbers but are not suitable for chess.
So we've lost 13+ pages of content since the last time I posted, assumedly due to banned/muted members...
May 14, 2020
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#6808
Here is an article about that. Seems like quantum computers won't help us solve chess:
May 14, 2020
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#6809
Howhorseymove wrote:
Suppose it could be proven mathematically that chess is a draw just like tic tac toe assuming that both sides play the best moves on each and every move. Do you think as a result that this could cause chess to die out or do you think people will play variants like Fischer random?
Why would anyone even care? Can YOU memorize the billions of billions of lines that it would take to force that draw against every move your opponent might play?
May 15, 2020
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#6810
blueemu wrote:
Howhorseymove wrote:
Suppose it could be proven mathematically that chess is a draw just like tic tac toe assuming that both sides play the best moves on each and every move. Do you think as a result that this could cause chess to die out or do you think people will play variants like Fischer random?
Why would anyone even care? Can YOU memorize the billions of billions of lines that it would take to force that draw against every move your opponent might play?
Well, we do care. You are right. I also think that chess won't die out, because of that. Even in times of strong engines, people still find new ideas which engines can't find. I don't think that human creativity can be achieved by machines.
However that's not the point of this thread. The question is "Will computers ever solve chess?" and not "Will chess ever die out?". These are two different things.
I don’t know why people think that Chess hasn’t been solved yet. There’s about 7.3 billion chess matches played every year. With the four major chess sites playing about 20 million a day. I notice a lot of the high computer play the French Open. I notice a lot of the high computer to play the French Defense. I used to not like that opening and now I play it a lot. Obviously you have to solve it for each different open.
May 15, 2020
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#6814
of course they will, brain is a machine so computers are.. its just a matter of time.
Yes.
Do you know now got the Komodo 14? And now the Komodo 11 in now FREE!
May 15, 2020
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#6817
As far as I know Alpha figured it out. Since it wins every game it plays, then it has solved it. It seems logical to me to think that.
May 15, 2020
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#6818
I don’t understand the posters who imagine that would “kill chess”. Humans foot race against humans and win Olympic medals doing so- it doesn’t matter that I could beat all gold medal winners by using my car, because I can’t beat them on foot. It wouldn’t matter that I could build a boxing robot that would knock out the greatest human boxer in seconds, because I can’t beat that boxer with my fists. Machines are interesting and useful, but they do not destroy human/human completion, at all.
The definition and set of criteria for a "solved game" can be read about here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solved_game
It's pointless to say an engine is unbeatable (especially when it can play itself and not draw), so chess is solved. That is not what "solved" means in this context.