Will computers ever solve chess?

There is actually an offbeat book opening where white opens with 1. g4.   It's called Grob's Attack and it goes 1. g4 d5  2. Bg2.  If black takes the gambit g4 pawn, he can get into serious trouble, after 1. g4 d5  2. Bg2 Bxg4  3. c4.   Black has to be very careful and play accurately, as there are lots of traps.   A guy whopped my butt in a chess club with that opening once (I had never seen it before and had no clue how to play it at the time).   So, I'd go one step further and say that 1. g4  2. f4 and 1. g4 2. f3 are the worst two-move openings, due to Fool's mate.  1. g4  2. Bg2 is very playable though, especially in bullet chess or when playing someone under 1500 rated.

Yes but 1. g4? is playable against not prepared players but against best play it is probably losing and is the only first move which is probably losing--so it is probably the worse first move. 

A human being playing the Grob's Attack against a super-computer probably wouldn't turn out well, since it's a very tactical gambit opening.   I was just commenting on 1. g4 in general.   I'd say that it has to be combined with a blunder (like 2. f3 or f4) to make it the worst first move.   A super-computer, playing 1. g4  2. Bg2 might still win or draw with white.   So, g4 alone doesn't lose by force, is what I'm getting at.

Disagree, i think 1. g4 loses by force. 

The best softwares currently available are stockfish and komodo, and the link I provided were from the sources of the deepest analysis so far available in computer chess forums. They analysed  beyond 50 depth or 200 hours, and also they analysed deeply in celebellum(brainfish) project as well. From these deepest and highest quality computer analysis sources, I can confirm that g4 is the worst and it may possible lead to forced lose for white.

I think it is still a matter of time. After technological advances in quantum computers, we may be able to reach what I mentioned in a few years, not even 20 years. 

Then you're saying that Grob's Attack is a dubious opening?  Well, it's certainly not the most sound opening, but it has been played by such players as IM Henry Grob,  Carl Ahlhausen, GM Savielly Tartakower, IM Michael Basman and GM Spyridon Skembris.   If black is unprepared for it and white is a strong player who knows it well, black will go down in flames.   1. h4 is probably worse than 1. g4.  

Maybe a forced loss for white, if played against a computer.  However, if played against a human being, who doesn't know exactly how to refute it (there's only one or two ways to beat it) white will win.  Grob's Attack has shock value and black had better be prepared for it or else he'll get killed.  It's not an opening where you can just wing it with your gut instincts.   A specific move order is required to defeat it.   If you miss one move or get them out of order, you lose.   I've never played it as white, but I've played against it as black and got my butt whooped.   I then proceeded to prepare for it before every tournament, just in case.   It's very trappy and tactical, so you had better know how to refute it before you cast 1. g4 off as an automatic loss for white.  Most players have no clue how to play it because they've never seen it before.   

It really does not matter what strong players played it in the past.

We are looking for the truth. We are not looking for how some not so strong players played a line in the past.

A strong player winning from a bad line--does not make that bad line into a good line.

The line 1. g4 may work against some players but in the last analysis it is a losing move.

By the way, I have found Stockfish's point analysis to be flawed.   While using it to analyze a position, a couple of times, a sequence of moves was given a certain +/- point value.  Then, after playing one or two moves of that variation, it came up with a completely different point value (about 0.5 different from the previous one).   So, those point values are only based on it's horizon (how many plies deep it is looking).  Yes, it will play the best move when it's "his" turn to move, but it doesn't always know the best complete sequence in advance.  It changes it's mind, based on new information (a new horizon that it didn't see before).  So, it might think that 1. g4 is a blunder, but after 8-10 moves of the Grob's Attack, it might be showing a + for white.   

I don't think that Savielly Tartakower would have played it if it was a blunder.   He was one of the best players in the world, during his time.

The problem is, it's very hard not to make poor moves against the Grob's (if you don't know it well) and very easy to make poor moves.   You can't play a standard opening defense against it, as black.   You're already out of book on move 1.   You can play 2. e5 or 2. c6 and gain equality, however if you accept the gambit, with the natural looking 2. Bxg4, it often leads to a loss.   It pulls your bishop away from your b2 pawn, which white is eyeing.   After 3. c4 and 4. Qb3, black has all kinds of traps and the b2, d5, e6 and f7 pawns can all become targets.   On the other hand, if you don't accept the gambit, then you can't play Nf6 and expect it to stay there for very long (because of the constant threat of g5).  Driving away this knight will weaken your d5 square.  This puts a lot of players out of their comfort zone, especially if they don't know any defensive formations with Ne7.   Therefore, g4 is not the worst move for white, no matter what Stockfish says.  My guess is that h4, b4 and a4 are all worse than g4.

1. g4 is the worse move for White as it loses by force.

All other White first moves do not lose by force.

Yes, Black can play poorly against 1. g4 and either draw or lose--but that is beside the point. Black can play poorly against any White first move and either draw or lose. 

No way.   1. g4 only loses by force if white follows it up with 2. f4.   A - 0.80 disadvantage does not equal a loss by force (against a human being).   Computers don't count, since they cheat (moving the pieces on multiple, digital boards).   So, even if a computer could beat another computer or human being, that opened with 1. g4, who cares?   That doesn't prove anything.   A top GM (that doesn't know any of the variations of the Grob's Attack) would have to refute it, for you to say that it loses by force.   Not a computer, which can calculate a proper reply, without having to remember it.   Computers are irrelevant, since they always cheat.   On the flip side of that, I bet that the top computer program would beat any human being alive, opening with 1. g4  2. Bg2.   A GM, like Tartakower, or an expert on the Grob's Attack, like Michael Basman could easily beat any 1500 player with 1. g4 too.   So, it only "loses by force" in your opinion.   Maybe you just want to argue with me, for the sake of arguing, since I called you out on your identity.

Now I'm tempted to open an alt account and test this theory.  I could learn the main lines of the Grob's Attack and start every single game with 1. g4.   I'm curious as to what my rating would be, compared to what it is now.   I bet I would still beat most players under 1600, opening with 1. g4.  I'd probably struggle with players in the 1600-1900 range though.   Just a guess.   However, I'm really working hard to improve my 1. d4 2. c4 openings right now and don't really want to waste time doing that.   It would be a fun experiment though.  

Here is another sequence where White opens 1. g4? and does not follow it with 2. f4 and still loses...

In a previous comment, I also mentioned 2. f3.   They are both Fool's Mate, so I didn't think I had to mention it again.   lol   Now I'm convinced that you just want to argue with me and have nothing of value to add to this topic.   So, you are the fool and I just checkmated you.   The Bible says, in Proverbs,   Go from the presence of a foolish man,
When you do not perceive in him the lips of knowledge.