WIll I Make it?

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ThoughtfulTheist

So I have a goal. My goal is to become a CM in my lifetime. Right now I am reading Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess and I play about 1 standard time game per day and about one or two correspondence games per day. I also try and do 3-5 tactic puzzles per day from chesstempo. I am also planning to read all of the endgame study guides for free members on this site from beginner to advanced. 

 

In your guys opinions, at this rate do you think I can achieve my goal?

 

Thanks.

RandomKorean228322

I think this is imposible when yoo put such little time into it.

richb8888

who cares

dpnorman

Okay, so a few questions:

First, clarification: are you playing entire correspondence games in one day? Or making one move?

Anyway, if you answer yes to the following questions, you are likely to make it. If you answer no to more than a few of them, you are not likely to make it:

1) Are you under 25 years old?

2) Do you play at least one rated OTB chess tournament per month?

3) Are you willing to spend at least two hours a day on chess every day to accomplish your goal?

4) Do you have a chess coach with a rating of at least 2000 (once you hit around 1800, you may need to get a higher coach, but looking at your ratings now, it's okay if your coach isn't titled for the moment)?

5) Do you have access to a chess club of strong players OTB (preferrably strong class players or better) that you can go to frequently to practice?

6) Will you be willing to travel long distances, maybe to other provinces or even internationally, to participate in FIDE events?

7) Are you playing a large portion, preferrably a majority, of your games against opponents with significantly higher (i.e. 200+ points above) ratings than you?

8) Are you okay with losing thousands of games to very strong chessplayers, both online and in tournaments, to accomplish your goal?

9) Are you willing to spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars in total expenses (entry in open tournaments, chess coach fees, chess resources) every year towards your goal?

10) Do you think you can do it?

I would say if you answered yes to more than seven of those, you may have a shot. If you had some "no"'s, then you should either work to change those aspects or set your sights on a more reasonable goal according to your own judgement.

I am not even close to FIDE Candidate Master, but I did go from under 1000 to over 1800 in eighteen months for U.S.C.F., and I myself am spending many hours every week towards my goal of U.S.C.F. NM.

Oh, and finally, your regiment of daily tactics is not going to cut it. You are going to need many more than 3-5 puzzles per day. I think that until you break at least 1500, tactics should be the vast majority of your studying because so many of your games will be decided on tactics. But if you get a chess coach, they can help design a more specific study plan to work on tactics (and other things accordingly).

Good luck.

ThisisChesstiny

I have the same goal (http://becomingachessmaster.com/about/ ). dpnorman asked some tough but valid questions; it will not be easy ( http://becomingachessmaster.com/2015/04/20/there-is-no-shortcut-to-success/ ).

Not sure how it works in Canada, but in the UK you can get a weekly rated OTB game easily and then enter 3-day congresses (tournaments ) at weekends fairly cheaply (about £30) and get 5 rated games.

Good luck.

msktta

How much time does a CM practice per day on average? Find out and match it, and then add an hour or two for good measure, considering most of them probably started when they were children.

Quiksilverau
dpnorman wrote:

Okay, so a few questions:

First, clarification: are you playing entire correspondence games in one day? Or making one move?

Anyway, if you answer yes to the following questions, you are likely to make it. If you answer no to more than a few of them, you are not likely to make it:

1) Are you under 25 years old?

2) Do you play at least one rated OTB chess tournament per month?

3) Are you willing to spend at least two hours a day on chess every day to accomplish your goal?

4) Do you have a chess coach with a rating of at least 2000 (once you hit around 1800, you may need to get a higher coach, but looking at your ratings now, it's okay if your coach isn't titled for the moment).

5) Do you have access to a chess club of strong players OTB (preferrably strong class players or better) that you can go to frequently to practice?

6) Will you be willing to travel long distances, maybe to other provinces or even internationally, to participate in FIDE events?

7) Are you playing a large portion, preferrably a majority, of your games against opponents with significantly higher (i.e. 200+ points above) ratings than you?

8) Are you okay with losing thousands of games to very strong chessplayers, both online and in tournaments, to accomplish your goal?

9) Are you willing to spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars in total expenses (entry in open tournaments, chess coach fees, chess resources) every year towards your goal?

10) Do you think you can do it?

I would say if you answered yes to more than seven of those, you may have a shot. If you had some "no"'s, then you should either work to change those aspects or set your sights on a more reasonable goal according to your own judgement.

I am not even close to FIDE Candidate Master, but I did go from under 1000 to over 1800 in eighteen months for U.S.C.F., and I myself am spending many hours every week towards my goal of U.S.C.F. NM.

Oh, and finally, your regiment of daily tactics is not going to cut it. You are going to need many more than 3-5 puzzles per day. I think that until you break at least 1500, tactics should be the vast majority of your studying because so many of your games will be decided on tactics. But if you get a chess coach, they can help design a more specific study plan to work on tactics (and other things accordingly).

Good luck.

Considering there are toddlers playing at GM level (and beating GMs), I think you are overthinking things.

 

OP, it generally depends on two things:

1. How many chunks of useful information you expose yourself to, in a relevant timeframe.

2. How good your ability to memorize/learn is.

 

The reason you see 12 year olds rated +2400, is because those ones are good at memorizing vast amounts of information, and their mind is also absorbing it so they are able to recall.

Add to that, they are exposing themselves to likely thousands of hours per year of relevant information.

 

Here's a simple task to raise your ELO.

1. Pick an opening, such as Spanish exchange variation. 

2. Memorize all the candidate moves for both sides, out to move 25.

3. Play with and against a good engine in that variation. Memorize the engines response to most of the candidate moves, and continue doing that out to move 30.

 

And of course practice chess as well. Endgame training, tactics, positional theory and understanding of tempo.

 

Once you can do that for 5-6 solid openings, then against most amateur players <2300 you will have a winning position at move 30.

The reason the average age of GMs is plummeting is because, compared to 50-75 years ago, there isn't much 'chess' in chess. Its more a memory game and also pattern recognition.

We have already reached the stage where any move which isn't memorized ends up with an 'exclam' beside it.

'Rf4!' 

That used to be called chess.

Where once a creative and ingenious move, now it is 'less common move only played under 1000 times'

Quiksilverau

What high level players won't really tell you is how important memorization (called 'preparation' and 'opening repertoire') and pattern recognition is in chess.

Also, I have an IM acquaintance, and she has mentioned that for people who don't start chess as toddlers, studying players such as Botvinnik will help you to understand positions.

dpnorman

@Quiksilverau This is a very bad recommendation. At under 1000 level, it would be an absolutely terrible decision to spend hours upon hours studying opening theory. Everyone has limited time to spend on chess. I don't mean any offense to you, but I doubt you're improving if this is what you're doing.

And I have no idea what "Considering there are toddlers playing at GM level (and beating GMs), I think you are overthinking things." means

First of all, no toddlers play at GM level. Only at around 11 or 12 do the best prodigies reach GM. And the ones who do were working at it for probably three hours a day every day for years. You think they were overthinking things? If they hadn't been working so hard, they wouldn't have been prodigies.

And it is NOT about theory. If you think it's about theory, then you don't know how chess works. It is completely possible to reach master level playing non-theoretical openings. And even if you want to argue that the reason they reach master level is because they can memorize (which is completely false of course), the opening memorization should not occur at 1000 level. At 1000 level, it should be all tactics with some endgames and almost no opening preparation.

The main reason kids improve and adults don't is that kids have much sharper minds and can calculate much better.

Again, please don't take this personally, but I hope the OP does not take your recommendations seriously.

briansladovich

Cool    It's good to have goals in life. But, it's best to set smaller and more achievable goals - baby steps as they say. That way, you won't become disillusioned but continue to enjoy your chess. Theory is all well and good but, there's no substitute for practical exoerience. So play lots of games.

"In order to improve your game, you must study the endgame before everything else. For whereas the endings can be studied and mastered by themselves, the middle game and end game must be studied in relation to the end game." - Jose Capablanca

tomy_gun

Your dream is not a lie but the truth incarnating in your life ambitions, but is better to have ideal dreams, to be a strong Master enjoying the analysis of champ games.

ThoughtfulTheist

Upon reading everyone's suggestions and so on, it has kind of given me a reality check lol. I am 20 and married so I don't have 3 hours a day to play chess, unless I have a day off. So I think CM may be reachable in a looooong time but I definitely would be content to be a player in the 2000+ rating.

dpnorman

It is a very large commitment. If you want to improve more than a few hundred points, you have to be willing to make chess one of the biggest priorities in your life. If you aren't willing to do that, then maybe master-level chess isn't for you, and becoming a decent class-level club or occasional tournament player could be more up your alley.

Jenium
Quiksilverau wrote:

Here's a simple task to raise your ELO.

1. Pick an opening, such as Spanish exchange variation. 

2. Memorize all the candidate moves for both sides, out to move 25.

3. Play with and against a good engine in that variation. Memorize the engines response to most of the candidate moves, and continue doing that out to move 30.

 

Sorry mate, but if you really believe that someone could become a strong chess player by memorizing opening lines up to move 25 you, obviously, don't have a clue how chess is being played.

ap_resurrection

i think most anyone can achieve that level if you really put a lot of effort into it and get good coaching - but most people who only care about achieving titles etc. instead of enjoying the day to day grind of the game, will likely not make it

 

in order to get to that level, you almost have to not think about that stuff and instead just focus on improvement and play

cabbagecrates

I've got this tin of corned beef I'd like to open with a banana.  Any advice?

xman720

I think people are overthinking the opening study debate. It's not about "Start opening studying at ELO this or that". If you are reaching equal middlegames in your gameplay then your openings are fine. If you find that you consistently enter the middlegame at a disadvantage then you need to study your openings. Use your own judgement, don't listen to people saying "openings are useful at this level or that level and detrimental before then". In your post-game analysis, it should be obvious to you whether your openings need work, or whether they are fine.

Murgen

1). Take the can of corned beef and the banana out into space

2). Gradually accelerate the banana to a speed below that which would make it leave orbit

3). Ensure that the can of corned beef moves directly into the path of the banana.

 

P.S. You didn't specify that you wanted the contents to survive the can being opened! Laughing

P.P.S. Make sure you are a safe distance away from the impact... it would be energetic...

MSteen

Here's a goal: Beat the next guy. Everyone wants to be an NM, FM, CM, IM, GM. But no one seems to be focused on the real and present need to beat the next guy. Study the endgames, analyze your games, play solitaire chess and Guess the Move on chessgames.com.

But, above all, you need to enter OTB tournaments and BEAT THE NEXT GUY. If you keep losing to him, despite your study and preparation, the answer to your original question is NO.

cabbagecrates
Murgen wrote:

1). Take the can of corned beef and the banana out into space

2). Gradually accelerate the banana to a speed below that which would make it leave orbit

3). Ensure that the can of corned beef moves directly into the path of the banana.

 

P.S. You didn't specify that you wanted the contents to survive the can being opened! 

P.P.S. Make sure you are a safe distance away from the impact... it would be energetic...

So I can do it right?  I'm going to get right on it. Anything's possible! Smile