Will playing chess help me regain the cognitive skills I lost

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beer-inactive

No.

You will improve some analytical skills (i.e. with respect to the game of chess and some other slightly related areas of life), but you'll never regain things you've already lost.

With that being said, light up andenjoy a good game.

CasualChess
Grakovsky wrote:

Chess is considered the "drosophila" of cognitive psychology and artificial intelligence studies, because it represents the domain in which expert performance has been most intensively studied and measured.


 Chess is considered the fruit fly of such studies?

HeavyArtillery

 what if you smoked weed and played chess at the same time

Beelzebub666
bastiaan wrote:
Beelzebub666 wrote:

There's no evidence pot smoking causes long term brain damage.  All you have to do to regain full brain function is stop smoking it.


I agree, but it will bother brain development untill 21 or something.
Chess can't be bad in any case.


 Only in terms of heightened risk of mental illness, and even in that case the jury is still out - correlation doesn't prove causation.  The current best bet from the research to date is that he hasn't caused any long term neurological impairment.  Even so, I agree chess can't hurt.

 

iambadatchess wrote:

CapnBrent: You did not lose any analytical skills by smoking pot. You just didn't use them as much, keeping you out of practice.


 Exactly right.

obtuse

uhh... what was the question?

Beelzebub666
CasualChess wrote:
Grakovsky wrote:

Chess is considered the "drosophila" of cognitive psychology and artificial intelligence studies, because it represents the domain in which expert performance has been most intensively studied and measured.


 Chess is considered the fruit fly of such studies?


 Drosophilia is the most commonly used organism in genetic studies, he means it's the standard testing tool. 

mojo98
Spiffe wrote:

 I actually used to know a lot of potheads who played chess, often both simultaneously. 


I'm not sure why, but every single pothead I know plays chess, and like 80% of the people I know who play chess also smoke.  No one at my school plays chess except for the potheads. Theres gotta be some connection

goldendog

Ken Spragget, as I recall the story, played high, at the GM level of course. His comment? "It was a disaster, results-wise."

So good chess, your best chess, won't be making an appearance alongside a pot intoxication. You might have fun though.

Will chess hone your fuzzy ole brain? Just the chess part I think. A pretty narrow range of skills when you think about it, unlike language related activities such as reading and writing.

exigentsky
mojo98 wrote:
Spiffe wrote:

 I actually used to know a lot of potheads who played chess, often both simultaneously. 


I'm not sure why, but every single pothead I know plays chess, and like 80% of the people I know who play chess also smoke.  No one at my school plays chess except for the potheads. Theres gotta be some connection


I have met the opposite group. At my old HS, the chess club was populated by the kids in honors and AP courses who did not use drugs (to my knowledge). I guess chess must have expanded its audience.

Anyway, I'm guessing chess would help one to be mentally sharper and it's very enjoyable anyway.

CasualChess

Beezlebub: I had no idea. It's always nice to learn something. Thanks. Unfortunately I'm now curious enough about the why behind the explanation that I'll be reading about flies tomorrow morning. Simple genetic codes that have been extensively mapped?

dlordmagic
victhestick wrote:

     The only way to really get your analytic skills back is to take some acid.

It has been proven that a little LSD really helps humans dissect and analyze

all complicated and structured elements, like chess, more effectively.  Your

game will never be the same!


 You ll have all the time you would need to improve at chess, from the quiet and comfort of a jail cell.

Chessroshi

Hmmm, that's a tough question.....what was the question?

victhestick
dlordmagic wrote:
victhestick wrote:

     The only way to really get your analytic skills back is to take some acid.

It has been proven that a little LSD really helps humans dissect and analyze

all complicated and structured elements, like chess, more effectively.  Your

game will never be the same!


 You ll have all the time you would need to improve at chess, from the quiet and comfort of a jail cell.


jailhouse chess, is the best chess

Beelzebub666
CasualChess wrote:

Beezlebub: I had no idea. It's always nice to learn something. Thanks. Unfortunately I'm now curious enough about the why behind the explanation that I'll be reading about flies tomorrow morning. Simple genetic codes that have been extensively mapped?


That's part of it, they're also simple and fast to breed and control, and despite only having 4 chromosome pairs, we can find analogues to three-quarters of all the known human disease genes.  'Drosophila melanogaster' for further reading, a useful little fly.

Scarblac
CapnBrent wrote:

I recently took up chess in order to hone my analytical skills, skills blunted by years of smoking marijuana.  Will I be able to regain clarity of thought and mental sharpness by playing this fascinating game, or is this a futile endevour that only graps at what is irrevocably lost?


I believe that most mental skills (ability to concentrate, etc) are _trainable_, as if the brain were a muscle. Pathways in your brains that you use often get strengthened and you get better at what you're doing. You can train clarity of thought by turning off the TV, turning off the Internet, turning off the radio, and doing something that takes all of your attention. First for five minutes, then ten...

I personally have problems concentrating (like at work), and a big reason why I love chess is that, in four-hour over the board games, I can concentrate really well. Better than with anything else. It feels great. I am convinced playing chess like that helps my concentration skills.

A slight downside is that I think about chess a lot during other activities...

I think blitz chess, and chess.com style "online" chess where you play tens of games at a time and only use a minute or so for each move is less likely to help, and possibly detrimental.

I liked the self-help book "Find Your Focus Zone", by the way. Nothing to do with chess, and possibly nothing to do with your issues, about which I don't know anything. Just mentioning it :-)

Practice!

wharris

Jan Timman used to smoke pot like a chimney and was right up there with the best of them. Quite a few other top GMs are known to be partial. Best advice is cut back and start using your brain. Could be chess, could be something else, like learning a language or how to play an instrument.

CapnBrent
wharris wrote:

Jan Timman used to smoke pot like a chimney and was right up there with the best of them. Quite a few other top GMs are known to be partial. Best advice is cut back and start using your brain. Could be chess, could be something else, like learning a language or how to play an instrument.


actually I play classical guitar and am learning German.

CapnBrent

thanks for all the thoughtful feedback.  Although a consensus hasn't been reached, I think it is safe to conclude that no matter what effects pot had on my brain - permanent or not- playing chess will probably help me become a sharper guy

 

just for the record, I have played alot of chess under the influence since I joined this site.  I always liked playing classical guitar and reading German while stoned, so it is probably difficult to say what effect marijuana had on my brain.  I don't think a person can make any objective judgements regarding his or her own mental states.  That is why I made this post.

Mullet_Overlord666
D_Blackwell wrote:
CzarWithinMoons wrote:

Instead of chess, try a counter-drug, like beer.  Lots of it. Everyday, all day long.


Not even a little bit funny.

 


I'll drink to that! Lighten up, it's healthier (lightening up that is, or lighting up for that matter).