Winner dragging out a game to be cruel

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If your interest is improving at chess, then it's a much better use of your time to resign a lost game and play another than to hope for some miraculous stalemate. On the other hand, in a tournament, it would be a good idea to try for a stalemate - it's much better than losing - and to get that, you do have to practice surviving in games and confusing your opponent into stalemates. So I don't know what to recommend.

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It's a question of preference. If playing out 100 lost positions because your opponent will stalemate or disconnect in 3 or 4 of those games is your thing, go for it.

I'd rather resign and spend my timing playing a new game from an even(ish) position.

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davidk67 wrote:

If your interest is improving at chess, then it's a much better use of your time to resign a lost game and play another than to hope for some miraculous stalemate. On the other hand, in a tournament, it would be a good idea to try for a stalemate - it's much better than losing - and to get that, you do have to practice surviving in games and confusing your opponent into stalemates. So I don't know what to recommend.

Playing a lost game teaches you pretty useful things specifically for beginners so it isn't in your best interest to resign as under 2000 (and even at my level ) they have no idea of WHEN to resign

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Thanks all for comments... very helpful. Resigning is my last choice because I would like to learn how to stalemate which is not always that easy. And playing as a beginner against other beginners I want to give them a chance to checkmate. But in the future I will resign when people are being vile. On LiChess I will click the resign button twice.

Do you get more points for checkmate vs abandonment?

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kaegun wrote:

Thanks all for comments... very helpful. Resigning is my last choice because I would like to learn how to stalemate which is not always that easy. And playing as a beginner against other beginners I want to give them a chance to checkmate. But in the future I will resign when people are being vile. On LiChess I will click the resign button twice.

Do you get more points for checkmate vs abandonment?

I wouldn't say they are being vile u waste their time by not resigning they waste yours by promoting everything but i recommend trying to stalemate them instead of resigning tho

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kaegun wrote:

Has anyone experienced the obvious winner of a game just not delivering checkmate and trying to drag out the game until the last few seconds? I try to give the winner the opportunity to checkmate but some people just enjoy flaunting their win and torturing the loser. Now I warn these idiots and if they don't stop I just abandon the game.

they are a-holes, but you always have the option to resign if you value your time so much you're willing to sit in a mate in one position on your opponent's turn for over a minute.

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kaegun wrote:

Do you get more points for checkmate vs abandonment?

No, points earned are based on result of the game and the ratings of the two players and nothing else.

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Not resigning in completely lost position is definitely much more unsportsmaship condact rhan waiting for opponent to resign. And worst unsportsmanship conduct is abandoning lost games (except for chesting of course).
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I do not resign immediately when I have obviously lost because I want to give my opponent the chance to deliver checkmate. I think checkmate looks better in your history because we never know why an opponent resigned. Did they blunder away the queen early in the game and so just resigned or was it because they were in a hopeless situation?

But in the future I will resign when it is clear that my opponent is just torturing me.

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I haven't had anyone do this to me yet. I will generally resign when I realize that I have blundered myself into a no win situation.

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JBarryChess wrote:

I haven't had anyone do this to me yet. I will generally resign when I realize that I have blundered myself into a no win situation"

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JBarryChess wrote:

I haven't had anyone do this to me yet. I will generally resign when I realize that I have blundered myself into a no win situation.

I am learning that I can sometimes work my way out of what I thought was a hopeless situation. I like to give my oponnent a chance to check mate.

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some people are kind for example in a OTB tournament, my nice opponent allowed me to get 7 knights happy.png

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kaegun wrote:

Has anyone experienced the obvious winner of a game just not delivering checkmate and trying to drag out the game until the last few seconds? I try to give the winner the opportunity to checkmate but some people just enjoy flaunting their win and torturing the loser. Now I warn these idiots and if they don't stop I just abandon the game.

if you're clearly losing, then resign. if you don't, you get what you deserve

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richnfamous wrote:
kaegun wrote:

Has anyone experienced the obvious winner of a game just not delivering checkmate and trying to drag out the game until the last few seconds? I try to give the winner the opportunity to checkmate but some people just enjoy flaunting their win and torturing the loser. Now I warn these idiots and if they don't stop I just abandon the game.

if you're clearly losing, then resign. if you don't, you get what you deserve

Abandon on my and get reported. Resign.

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You can report them as they are wasting valuable processor time of chess.com and not finishing the game efficiently their accounts may be suspended for this bad bad behaviour

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if someone refuses to resign, then I often have a bit of fun...

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RikLikesTacos wrote:

also people like me actually enjoy checkmating over resigning, and get very sad when people resign.

Even more reason to resign then. If I see someone who is clearly going to win just eating my pieces rather than an obvious checkmate, then I'm not going to give them the satisfaction. You've already won, so win it.

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Grand_Inquisitioner1 wrote:

This may seem a little evil ( even here I have an impish smirk on my face) but REPORT them. I have done this twice in the same circumstances and it’s always WORKED.

RIP to the ChessBrah's account, then! wink

This whole thing seems to be much ado about nothing because whatever side you're on and whatever's bothering you, there's an easy solution as long as you understand that compromise is a thing.

IF you don't resign because you want to learn something, that's fine - but you need to understand that not every opponent will understand that's what your motivation is and may troll you. When the trolling starts, you can resign. If you're not resigning because you think you have a chance of nicking a result, that's also fine, but you have no right to complain when your opponent starts playing in a manner that clearly conveys they know they've won. Oh, and no, you shouldn't report your opponent just because they're dragging it out. You accepted that they might do that when you made the decision not to resign.

Conversely, if you're on the winning side, you are not entitled to a resignation! Chess.com does remind us of this in their FAQs. Your opponent is not necessarily being disrespectful, and even if you think they are, you're about to win, so what do you care? I rarely get impatient with my opponent when they don't resign because 99% of the time, when my opponent is losing they'll resign - which means the opportunity to put mate on the board (against human opponents) is rare. If I get to the above position (as White), my opponent will almost always resign. Most of the rest of the time, I'd promote to a Queen and test my accuracy. There is the odd occasion I might underpromote to a knight. I don't think this is being disrespectful - this is a checkmate that needs to be practiced every so often and the opportunity to do it to a human opponent in an actual game is rare. There is an element of being assertive, but not an unreasonable one. Conversely, my opponent has a choice. They can think: "OK, he's got this" and resign, or they can think: "I'd actually like to see this" and play on. It doesn't matter if they're actually arrogant enough to think they can get stalemate or last 50 moves - I'll beat them just the same, so I might as well assume they just want a free lesson. If I'm being really picky, I'll say that when I underpromote to a knight, my opponent should decide there and then whether they resign on the spot, or let me play it out to checkmate. Don't be a you-know-what and have us go through the rigmarole of Black King runs for wrong corner, I keep him there as I co-ordinate my pieces into the Mate in 17 position, then embark on the "W" technique - Black King thinks I've messed up and tries to escape for the other wrong corner, only to find out I know what I'm doing - Black King gets boxed in to his final two squares and THEN resign. However, even if my opponent is that disrespectful, I'll frown, think "that's a (you-know-what) move", and then I'll get on with my life and never be bothered by that instance again. If I get THIS position, however:

There was ONE game, in my Junior days, where I had something like this, promoted to a Queen, sacked it, did this two more times and then promoted to a rook with the final pawn. Nowadays, who has time for bleeping around like that? This game is going to be over in 5 moves or less.