Would this be cheating?

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Casual_Joe

If I'm playing a game that's exactly following the moves of one of my previous games, and I went back and ran my previous game through the computer, knowing that the information would be useful in my current game, would that be cheating?

Casual_Joe

The game deviated now, so it's not really relevant anymore, but I'm still curious what people think.

Martin_Stahl
Casual_Joe wrote:

If I'm playing a game that's exactly following the moves of one of my previous games, and I went back and ran my previous game through the computer, knowing that the information would be useful in my current game, would that be cheating?

 

Yes, using computer analysis on a position that matches an existing game would be against the rules, regardless if that position was also from a different game.

blueemu

As a general rule, if you have to ASK whether it's cheating, then it's cheating.

llama44

Some strong correspondence players have been banned for this...

In general I fully support chess.com cheat detection, but for seasoned correspondence players, who already have years of engine analysis in their very deep prep (for example 30+ moves), they can get banned without actually being bad guys... sure they're playing exactly like an engine, but that's what happens

So people like that can't play correspondence here (or they have to play on their own), which is fine... but yeah, you'll get banned for it.

IsDannyOhKaye

I have evidence that top GMs do the same thing. It's unfair that us patzers shouldn't be allowed the same.

 

Here is the proof GMs cheat.

 

Aren't they accessing previous games they played too?

 

Why is Carlsen sitting all by himself? Is he imagining a world around him without competitors? I call this blatant cheating!!!

 


 

Grischuk has you all convinced he is wasting time on the clock making a move, but in reality he is playing at a casino in another universe.

 


Fabiano writes down the moves before he plays them. That is why he is not good at blitz.

 


Then people like Ding Liren have to look at their cheat sheet on the floor to see what to do next after they win.

 

It's all there guys, proof is in the pudding. GMs cheat too.

Casual_Joe

Good thoughts, thanks.  I should've been clear -- I'm not actually doing this.  But I was playing a game that followed a previous game of mine and the question popped into my head.  It was still pretty early in the opening.  Maybe it's a grey area.

IsDannyOhKaye

But let's be honest guys. If you type "2+2" into a calculator are you really cheating to find out the answer is 4?

something_blah

If calculators aren't allowed by the rules then yes.

Prometheus_Fuschs
llama44 escribió:

Some strong correspondence players have been banned for this...

In general I fully support chess.com cheat detection, but for seasoned correspondence players, who already have years of engine analysis in their very deep prep (for example 30+ moves), they can get banned without actually being bad guys... sure they're playing exactly like an engine, but that's what happens

So people like that can't play correspondence here (or they have to play on their own), which is fine... but yeah, you'll get banned for it.

TBH good correspondance players are centaurs now, or at least that's how the ICCF works now. I love it.

The_adventurer07
IsDannyOhKaye wrote:

I have evidence that top GMs do the same thing. It's unfair that us patzers shouldn't be allowed the same.

 

Here is the proof GMs cheat.

 

 

Aren't they accessing previous games they played too?

 

 

Why is Carlsen sitting all by himself? Is he imagining a world around him without competitors? I call this blatant cheating!!!

 

 

 

Grischuk has you all convinced he is wasting time on the clock making a move, but in reality he is playing at a casino in another universe.

 

 

Fabiano writes down the moves before he plays them. That is why he is not good at blitz.

 

 

Then people like Ding Liren have to look at their cheat sheet on the floor to see what to do next after they win.

 

It's all there guys, proof is in the pudding. GMs cheat too.

: D

IsDannyOhKaye
something_blah wrote:

If calculators aren't allowed by the rules then yes.

 

Does that mean I have to cut off my fingers?

Monie49
A finger
something_blah
IsDannyOhKaye wrote:
something_blah wrote:

If calculators aren't allowed by the rules then yes.

 

Does that mean I have to cut off my fingers?

*shrug*

Patzser

You know that's cheating.

AlexanderGilchrist8

Well, if you were cheating, that means either you're in check or you dont know what youre doing

real707s

It probably is cheating.

Deadmanparty

If you have the line memorized, it is not cheating.  Play like you would over the board.

EtienneKCC
blueemu wrote:


As a general rule, if you have to ASK whether it's cheating, then it's cheating.



I agree with blueemu
teehee_57

It's cheating 😔