"This is a lost argument, I don't why you want to debate this. There is no 1000 player that could beat Carlsen because they have white. White does NOT give you an advantage".
White DOES give you an advantage. I don't remember having said is enough to jump over a gap of 1900 Elo points. Now I'm sure you are here only to touch balls. Bye, little dragon.
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Umm yeah, the end. Sorry fabelhaft once again. 
Well, fabelhaft is stating the same as us. I also thought this discussion is pointless from the beginning.
In an attempt to drag this back on topic, Nakamura got a good win yesterday out of the blue which stirs things up.
Surprised to see most people discount Anand. He got a slight advantage against Kramnik yesterday, and his performance against Magnus in the WCC was pretty good. I'm not sure any of the other contenders would have done better. I'd expect him to at least be in the top half at the end.
I'll never discount Anand until he's dead.
He's very resilient, and seems to make less mistakes than the rest of the field. Kramnik, Karjakin, Aronian and even Caruana all seem a bit out of form really, but who knows.
He's very resilient, and seems to make less mistakes than the rest of the field. Kramnik, Karjakin, Aronian and even Caruana all seem a bit out of form really, but who knows.
It seems a bit strange that so many people is "out of form" at the same time.
Maybe some could have gotten a temporal peak and others are simply on their way down.
Possibly Caruana is a bit 'out of ideas' to paraphrase Jan Gustafsson as he has played so much lately. It must be pretty exhausting.
With the others, sad to say as an old guy myself, perhaps you are right and maybe they are edging downwards.
Oddly top chess reminds me a little now of top snooker back in the 1970s. Suddenly all these young kids came along and swept the old guard away. For snooker, it was TV and the money. Not sure for chess, though there have always been prodigies I suppose. Just seems to be a lot of them coming through now.
The white/black discussion is rather pointless, it's always better to play white, just like it's always better to lead a football match. That some teams still lose matches they were leading and some players lose games with white is obvious.
I really don't think that's the same at all. Black has alternate moves to equalise.
Will Nakamura play the KID against Kramnik again? He still has a 5-4 lead in decisive games against Kramnik, even though he lost their latest game when he played the KID.
The white/black discussion is rather pointless, it's always better to play white, just like it's always better to lead a football match. That some teams still lose matches they were leading and some players lose games with white is obvious.
I really don't think that's the same at all. Black has alternate moves to equalise.
Surely if black has to equalise, by definition white must start with an advantage? But as Fabelhaft says, it's a pointless debate.
Back to Zurich, I think Aronian might struggle today against Anand, but maybe Caruana might do something with black against Karjakin.
Well Anand won, so I claim my £5
Aronian is out-out, but late Anand is just preparation. When he wins it's all nice and well, but I don't know. Inspid.
Aronian is out-out, but late Anand is just preparation. When he wins it's all nice and well, but I don't know. Inspid.
Yes I kind of agree with you. Even the game he won against Carlsen in the WCC was home cooking. Not quite the same somehow as brilliance over the board.
Vishy and Naka will tie for the 1st place for classical, and when we add rapid games Fabi will win in total pts.
With white against Karjakin today Nakamura has a decent chance of joining the 2800 club and give himself an excellent position for the rest of the tournament. What remains in classical will then be his "client" Anand and white against Aronian.
With white against Karjakin today Nakamura has a decent chance of joining the 2800 club and give himself an excellent position for the rest of the tournament. What remains in classical will then be his "client" Anand and white against Aronian.
Anand is also Aronian's client. Yet he won yesterday.
With white against Karjakin today Nakamura has a decent chance of joining the 2800 club and give himself an excellent position for the rest of the tournament. What remains in classical will then be his "client" Anand and white against Aronian.
Anand is also Aronian's client. Yet he won yesterday.
That is true, even if Aronian has been losing to "everyone" lately and dropped from 2835.5 on October 8th to 2769.3 today, i.e. 66.2 points in just over four months.
The white/black discussion is rather pointless, it's always better to play white, just like it's always better to lead a football match. That some teams still lose matches they were leading and some players lose games with white is obvious.