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I recently lost a game on time, but there wasn't mating material left. Only two kings and one knight each. I think it is a glitch in the system.

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From FIDE Laws of Chess:

9.6

The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot occur by any possible series of legal moves. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing this position was legal.

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PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot occur by any possible series of legal moves.

Back to the drawing boardLaughing

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another "I don't know the rules" thread. Everything is perfectly fine with chess.com, Article 6.9 if FIDE laws of chess defines that the game is lost if the time runs out,unless mate can't be achieved by any series of legal moves. You've seen that mate can be achieved,so nothing is wrong. Your position itself is a dead draw of course, one reason more to play with increment.
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trysts wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot occur by any possible series of legal moves.

Back to the drawing board


Pun intended? 

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TheGrobe wrote:
trysts wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot occur by any possible series of legal moves.

Back to the drawing board


Pun intended? 


Actually, noLaughing

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trysts wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:
trysts wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot occur by any possible series of legal moves.

Back to the drawing board


Pun intended? 


Actually, no


 

I don't get your point:

1. The position shown can be arrived at by a series of legal moves.

2. The wording is FIDE's own.

 

Please explain, my brain doesn't function properly unless properly watered (I'm driving later Frown).

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PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
trysts wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:
trysts wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot occur by any possible series of legal moves.

Back to the drawing board


Pun intended? 


Actually, no


 

I don't get your point:

1. The position shown can be arrived at by a series of legal moves.

2. The wording is FIDE's own.

 

Please explain, my brain doesn't function properly unless properly watered (I'm driving later ).


On my part, I was making a self-depricating joke about how I only win illegally, for instance, by taking my opponent's queen off the board while they're not looking. Better?

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Self-depricating comments on Chess.com? I must have fallen through a hole in space into some alter-universe.... also explains my present lack of beer.

 

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All right, I get it... a King and a Knight can Checkmate. So then why did this game draw? If a King and Knight can Checkmate, Here's a King and Knight and it Drew on Time.

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Americanflag wrote:

 

All right, I get it... a King and a Knight can Checkmate. So then why did this game draw? If a King and Knight can Checkmate, Here's a King and Knight and it Drew on Time.

 


if black runs out of time in that position white wins and if white runs out of time in that position its a draw because there is no possible set of legal moves that could lead to a mate for black in that position, setup a board and figure it out and you will see

I am saying that with a pawn on a rook file and king vs king and knight mate is impossible for the side with the king and knight

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Americanflag wrote:

 

All right, I get it... a King and a Knight can Checkmate. So then why did this game draw? If a King and Knight can Checkmate, Here's a King and Knight and it Drew on Time.

 


uhh, cause checkmate is not possible from any series of legal moves. This is because the pawn is on the edge of the board. If White runs out of time in this position the game is a draw--insufficient material.

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msoewulff wrote:
Americanflag wrote:

 

All right, I get it... a King and a Knight can Checkmate. So then why did this game draw? If a King and Knight can Checkmate, Here's a King and Knight and it Drew on Time.

 


uhh, cause checkmate is not possible from any series of legal moves. This is because the pawn is on the edge of the board. If White runs out of time in this position the game is a draw--insufficient material.


But it is possible for black to win, since a promotion to a bishop or knight by white and some n00bing around allows for black to win. Remember, the rule states that if one can win with a help-mate with the material they have, their material is enough to win, even in a grandmaster game. And all pawns are considered at the end to be queens, so even if you have just one pawn, you can still win.

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adude23 wrote:
msoewulff wrote:
Americanflag wrote:

 

All right, I get it... a King and a Knight can Checkmate. So then why did this game draw? If a King and Knight can Checkmate, Here's a King and Knight and it Drew on Time.

 


uhh, cause checkmate is not possible from any series of legal moves. This is because the pawn is on the edge of the board. If White runs out of time in this position the game is a draw--insufficient material.


But it is possible for black to win, since a promotion to a bishop or knight by white and some n00bing around allows for black to win. Remember, the rule states that if one can win with a help-mate with the material they have, their material is enough to win, even in a grandmaster game. And all pawns are considered at the end to be queens, so even if you have just one pawn, you can still win.


umm once again show the position and the sequence of moves leading up to it and you will either find a mistake in your statement or that i am just haveing a mental lapse or something

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TheWayOfTheMate wrote:
adude23 wrote:
msoewulff wrote:
Americanflag wrote:

 

All right, I get it... a King and a Knight can Checkmate. So then why did this game draw? If a King and Knight can Checkmate, Here's a King and Knight and it Drew on Time.

 


uhh, cause checkmate is not possible from any series of legal moves. This is because the pawn is on the edge of the board. If White runs out of time in this position the game is a draw--insufficient material.


But it is possible for black to win, since a promotion to a bishop or knight by white and some n00bing around allows for black to win. Remember, the rule states that if one can win with a help-mate with the material they have, their material is enough to win, even in a grandmaster game. And all pawns are considered at the end to be queens, so even if you have just one pawn, you can still win.


umm once again show the position and the sequence of moves leading up to it and you will either find a mistake in your statement or that i am just haveing a mental lapse or something


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