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Solerano

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I just had every nice chess partner from Egypt who wrote me some nice message which I did discover after beating him. It says something like "O gay, son of gay of the gay." I know the message in itself is kind of cryptic but I think the middlefinger emojis tell the direction. 

Is there any way to report that to a contact at chess.com besides the normal report button / form? 

Bheeshmaparva
Solerano wrote:

 

I just had every nice chess partner from Egypt who wrote me some nice message which I did discover after beating him. It says something like "O gay, son of gay of the gay." I know the message in itself is kind of cryptic but I think the middlefinger emojis tell the direction. 

Is there any way to report that to a contact at chess.com besides the normal report button / form? 

Hey! Sorry that he abused you. You will often come across such people if you have enabled the chat for everyone. Just report him for abusing with enough reasons. Don't worry , he will definitely get punished. Do believe in chess.com's system. It really works. Thing is , sometimes you won't be able to find if that guy is punished or not. It depends on the severity of the cases. But, I genuinely feel this guy needs to be punished seriously. There's no other way than reporting him. So, have a trust in the chess.com team and just report. Have a good day 🙂

Solerano

Thanks for your comment and your opinion. I will follow your advice and wait and see happy.png if anything happens at all.  

SammyTM06
@because_checkmate Whether it was intended as an insult or not does matter - if it was said with intent to offend. Furthermore, I believe the middle finger is generally considering insulting.
justbefair

Please don't post accusations of abuse in the forum.

You can send use the Contact Us on the Help menu to send an email to support@chess.com with an attachment,

https://support.chess.com/article/346-contact-us

/ Let's also not forget that Chess.com is an international community and that morality standards are not the same in all countries.   Encountering other players online from different countries is a chance to establish a dialog.

// https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscene_gesture explains that the middle finger is not a universal gesture and that it is used differently in Egypt.

// https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Egypt

/// And it's also possible it was just  meant as straightforward abuse.   I just mention these things to keep in mind.

Solerano

@Justbefair

a) I don´t see any reason why I should not ask for another way to report that and why I shouldn´t make harassment public. Keeping things private only benefits the aggressors. 

b) I don´t make just an accusation, it is a fact. 

c) It is not about morality standards, it is about human rights which should be the same in any country and surely should be the standard for chess.com. 

d) In the Wikipedia article you cited I don´t see any explanation that a straight middle finger is not used in this way and is not understood in this way. Additionally the context speaks for itself. 

 

 

ziadwafa

fyi, I'm in egypt as you see and I do not think it's used differently at all

DreamscapeHorizons

He's just saying ur happy. Probably happy because u won.

Solerano
DreamscapeHorizons wrote:

He's just saying ur happy. Probably happy because u won.

haha, very funny. But it´s not.

justbefair

Well, not making public accusations in the chess.com forum is Chess.com policy.

I will find you the Help page that explains this more thoroughly.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/no-namingshaming-rule

Solerano

A forum entry is actually not a very solid source. And actually I don´t accept that. My freedom of speech pointing out and making harassment public will certainly not be limited by some chess.com policy. 

What happened in the meantime? Apparently nothing. Or is the adequate reaction of chess.com just deducting some points? Are they even reading the reports?

idilis
Solerano wrote:

My freedom of speech pointing out and making harassment public will certainly not be limited by some chess.com policy.

It will be when they mute you.  It's a private website.

Solerano

It is a private website but being a dominant player in the online chess market they actually cannot do what they want. 

SammyTM06

When you signed up to this website you agreed to its terms and conditions. It’s as simple as that. They can do whatever they want if you violated their policy.

Solerano
SammyTM06 wrote:

When you signed up to this website you agreed to its terms and conditions. It’s as simple as that. They can do whatever they want if you violated their policy.

That´s not how the law works. Not every term in terms and conditions is binding.