Is there a way to store postal chess games?

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Dr_Skepticus

I play postal chess, really postal chess. And I need a medium to have access to my games from anywhere. And I thought that Chess.com would be the logical place to store them. But I don't know if you have a feature that let's you enter moves and keeps a time record.

Please tell me if you have it.

Thank you!

Dr_Skepticus

Thank you. But beside that I was thinking about a web based database (I use EcTool in my home computer), with the idea of having access to my postal games every where I am. For example, yesterday I received a postcard with one move from a match of a world postal tournament, and I had to respond immediately because time trouble.

The post office was to close in one hour and I didn't have that time to return to my house, see the complete history of the game, check that the postmarks that the other player consigned where right, prepare my postcard and return to the post office and send it. But in the same facility I could rent access to Internet. And then I realized that a web based database would be a great tool, at least for those of us that play postal chess.

Well, I had to respond that move with faith that the other player consigned rightly the time and the moves in a restaurant near to the post office with a Passport Travel Chess Set to analyze the position that I remembered, return to the post office and send my postcard just 9 minutes before the facility closed.

I think, if Chess.com doesn't have a feature like this one, it must have it.

Dr_Skepticus

A group for myself... looks like a good alternative, thank you for the idea but I must expose my case to the Chess.com staff. At last, a tool like the one I propose would make it the most complete chess site. Do you know if they read these posts?

billwall

The staff does read these posts.  Erik and others will look at this idea.

Dr_Skepticus

OK, thank you. In the mean time I will explore Kepler's idea and I was thinking if I could use my blog to do the same thing.

To be honest I haven't used groups or my blog, so I don't know what feature could fill more completely my needs. Any advice?

Thank you.

ichabod801

You might also look at a handheld solution. There are chess programs for PDAs and iPods/iPhones that might serve your purpose. I looked at the iPod ones recently. I don't know if any of them can store multiple games (it appeared that some of them cannot). I didn't look to closely b/c I couldn't find one that could handle Fischer Random.

Dr_Skepticus
ichabod801 wrote:

You might also look at a handheld solution. There are chess programs for PDAs and iPods/iPhones that might serve your purpose. I looked at the iPod ones recently. I don't know if any of them can store multiple games (it appeared that some of them cannot). I didn't look to closely b/c I couldn't find one that could handle Fischer Random.


Another alternative. Unfortunately I don't have a handheld at this time, maybe in the future. Thank you for your suggestion.

corum

If you have access to the internet, couldn't you play your postal games using chess.com? You could both become members and access all your games on chess.com. You wouldn't even need to use stamps. Simply play correspondence chess using online chess. If you both have access to the internet I can't see why you would want to mess around with stamps and letters etc.

Dr_Skepticus

First, this is a matter of personal decisions. Second, the people I get paired with are strangers for me, since we are members of the ICCF. Third, we cannot disappear certain ways of playing correspondence chess. I know some folks that play over fax. Even one time when a friend was in serious time trouble picked up the phone and called me to say his move!

Given this, I think Chess.com would be more valuable if gives more attention to postal chess players.

Thank you for your thoughts!

aansel

My play on the ICCF is all server based so I can access my games on any computer any time any place.. You can also use something like Chessbase Light and keep the games on a memory stick bit not sure if you can use these sticks on public machines.

Dr_Skepticus

Yeah! But as a ICCF member you know there are only postal tournaments, where I'm enganged now.

Your idea of a memory stick sounds good, but as you mentioned, not every machine, not every cibercafe service, allows me to use them.

Thank you for proposing another option!

Dr_Skepticus
MackSonic wrote:

Maybe you could set up another chess.com login so you could play the game online making your opponents moves for him/her.


It looks unlikely, as I understand Chess.com doesn't allow multiple accounts. It would be best if the featured can be integrated in this great site.

Manchero

It is simple enough to record all the games elsewhere, which is what I ended up doing. Although having the feature available as part of this site would be a massive plus as far as I am concerned because it would be so convenient.

However due to the work involved, I expect there would need to be quite a lot of people showing an interest in this forum. I had made an almost identical suggestion last year, but nobody showed an interest and therefore there was no realistic chance of chess.com implementing it at that time.

Dr_Skepticus
Manchero wrote:

It is simple enough to record all the games elsewhere, which is what I ended up doing. Although having the feature available as part of this site would be a massive plus as far as I am concerned because it would be so convenient.

However due to the work involved, I expect there would need to be quite a lot of people showing an interest in this forum. I had made an almost identical suggestion last year, but nobody showed an interest and therefore there was no realistic chance of chess.com implementing it at that time.


I was doing some research and in GameKnot.com they have a feature that let's you enter games move by move to comment them. That's close to what we, postal players, needs. I think I just lacks of an easy way to record the time taken per move per player. I'm sure Chess.com could do a better work.

Manchero
MackSonic wrote:

I'm not sure if they'd mind if you just played unrated games against yourself.


 They do mind...as far as I understand, the only way to complete this unrated game (unless you have a friend willing to play through all the moves), is to hold 2 accounts. In that circumstance a member could be banned for cheating (multiple accounts is against the rules), despite the reason for multiple accounts being innocent.

Manchero
Skepticus wrote: I was doing some research and in GameKnot.com they have a feature that let's you enter games move by move to comment them. That's close to what we, postal players, needs. I think I just lacks of an easy way to record the time taken per move per player. I'm sure Chess.com could do a better work.

 There is a feature here enabling you to enter games which can be added to forums for discussion. But, for it to be useful to us, we would need it to feed into a database. Then we would also like this database to be linked to our regular chess.com games too, right? Sounds relatively straightforward from my limited computing knowledge - but I can understand that it may be more time consuming for the staff, rather than difficult to implement.

Manchero
MackSonic wrote:

Look, I know some people are strict rule followers and thats cool; to each, their own. I tend to look at the intent of the rule and possble negative consequences of breaking the rule. If the OP was to set up 2 fresh chess.com accounts and use these to play unrated games against each other:

1) Why would anyone care?

2) How is anyone going to know?

3) What would happen if someone cared and he was found out? (I consider this unlikely)

They'd ban his two fresh accounts which are used to do nothing but play unrated games against each other. Rinse and repeat.

It would be nice if chess.com had this fuctionality and it is a good suggestion but things cost time and money. Lighten up people and admit it was a good idea instead of justifying why you didn't think of it first.


 So basically you are encouraging people to break the rules of the site, and explaining to them how to do it. I assume you can be banned for conspiring to cheat, so taking care as to what you post may be a good idea. Making suggestions as to how to improve the site would surely be time better spent.

Dr_Skepticus
Manchero wrote:

 There is a feature here enabling you to enter games which can be added to forums for discussion. But, for it to be useful to us, we would need it to feed into a database. Then we would also like this database to be linked to our regular chess.com games too, right? Sounds relatively straightforward from my limited computing knowledge - but I can understand that it may be more time consuming for the staff, rather than difficult to implement.


That would be great, Manchero. Chess.com staff, are you reading this thread? If so, tell us what do you think? I don't think it is too difficult since a worse site, like GameKnot let's store commented games, when you have great features that site doesn't have, like computer analysis, playing against the computer, Tactics Trainer and , of course, Chess Mentor. Maybe I'm wrong, but a word from you is necessary here.

Two of your premium members need an special feature to consolidate almost all of their chess experience and don't lose time going from one service to another. What do you thing Chess.com staff?

buster47

Just send your pgn of the game as a attachment to a email and send it to yourself or use Windows Live SkyDrive and you will be able to get your games on any computer connected to the net.

Go-Braves

Just send your pgn of the game as a attachment to a email and send it to yourself or use Windows Live SkyDrive and you will be able to get your games on any computer connected to the net.