vacation time

I think he just means the numbers don't corrospond to FIDE ratings. However we all know that, so his smug attitude is a bit misplaced.

 Lol - you're so convinced of your own ideas that you refuse to consider this logically. Of course the ratings on chess.com don't correspond to Elo, Fide, or USCF ratings, but they do accurately represent the strength of players on this site, relative to one another. Think about it - as Nytik said, one's rating increases when they win and decreases when they lose, awarding more points if one beats someone much higher than themself. Once enough people have played each other, we end up with a good demonstration of each player's strength based on who they have beaten and who they've lost to.

I can't wait for your next post; I've been laughing my butt off between your attitude of superiority and flawed arguments.

its useless, some people will never understand.

i only agree with the arguments about situation where vacation is used with the intention to gain extra time to make a move . That is indeed a problem. If instead of 3 days, a player uses vacation and has 7 days for a move, then thats dirty playing. But, thats done by only a group of players. Not everyone does that! Its unfair to gather everyone in the same groups as cheaters!

But, most of the people who are against vacations are just guys that dont know what real life is, for sure.  They are even ridicullous most of the times with their arguments.

Guys, i repeat, people have jobs, people have other things to do than just log in in chess.com and make moves in all the games. I will give concrete examples:

I know people who have to do long business trips (for example) that are part of their jobs, that can take some days. Some of them, have to do that in regular periods, from ex 1 time each 2 months.  So, what you are saying is that those people shouldnt be able to put vacation, just because you guys cant learn to wait? In this case, it would mean that this kind of people would lose almost all the time with timeouts?

The case about the cinema is a joke. Its completly different to online chess. Again, you are giving example of things that finish in one day!!!!to compare with chess game tha can take months to end!.....

And i also repeat, if you take out vacations then you will also suffer consequences. Or do you think that people who regularly have periods where they cant log in would play 3 days game??? Most of them would probably quit, and the rest would make longer games with 14 days per move, and you would still have to wait to finish you games...

I've read a LOT of post about this controversial topic, and this is my conclusion. I think that vacation time has to be initiated by the user, and not put in automatic use when they run out of time (I believe that’s what happens, right?). I also think that for tournys there should be a setting allowing a certain amount of vacation time, say the default is a week? All in all I think this would be a good compromise.

Basically, in my opinion, people who are against vacation are most of the times just selfish.

Its really not your business if other people take vacations or not! I really dont understand, is it really that hard to accept the vacations? Some of your opponents take vacation, and so what? You can play some other games, is that really a problem? You dont really lose anything because of other players putting vacation, so thats just selfish talk of those who cant win on the board and so the have to get excuses to claim wins.

You say the ratings are useless, but arent you saying the opposite? After all, what you really want is to raise your ratings with wins by timeouts!

if i'm on a plane and my job calls, i think the plane should land immediately and everyone should be forced to wait for me while i take care of my business.  people have lives!  everything must cease whenever my life is more important than what i'm doing--no matter who it invloves!  bow down to me!  bow to me!  and movies are ridiculous and do not make valid comparisons to anything!  bow!

frankly, it has been my experience that those who are agasint vacations are simply people who want to play chess rather than not play chess.  those who vacation are people who would rather not play. 

and for the record--it is my business if i'm in the middle of a game with someone and they leave the game.  a simple explanation would go a long way.  but that's another subject.

another joke!

So, you guys want to play chess???

I thought you wanted to win games on time!!!!!

Oops, seems like i got to the point of this discussion! after all, its all about interests.

And for the record: Those who use vacations without dirty playing, are people who like chess, who prefer the games to end in the board and not by timeouts!!!

so you want to play chess?  yes i do, but no not really.  i want to vacation instead.  chess?  bah!  i'd rather say there's an illness in the family!

So play on live chess. Or play in no vacation tournaments.

How does being against vacation constitute someone not knowing what life is?

Anyway, your argument does not make a ton of sense either.  A person that goes on a business trip once every two months does not have time to play a game of chess on a website that they clearly registered for in order to play a game of chess with a 3 day time limit.  Obviously they have chosen chess.com as a part of their life.....hmmmmmmm.  And also, a person that goes on a business trip nowadays-forgive me if I am ignorant to the fact of business trips and since I have numerous people that I know that take them-usually needs a laptop in this day and age of technology.  Just about every hotel on the planet has internet connections, unless of course you need to go into the middle of the desert for an archeological excavation or are discovering vast monuments in a deep jungle.  And I am not ignorant to the fact that some people may take camping trips or hiking trips or wilderness trips or safaris.  However, when a person uses their vacation time several times during one game every three days..........that is annoying.

you're right, but it's so fun to run along...

Whenever I am trying to make a move in live chess I think the timer should stop instead of run........oops, I guess that is why I play live chess....so that each person can make a move in a timely manner.

Just a comment to GCeezy, with his uninformed comment:  when one is a member, vacation time is initiated automatically.  The member doesn't have to come to the site at all.  No need for the snide comment, then huh?

At 56 now, having retired and coming back to chess again since my college days, I find myself with several chronic illnesses, including heart disease.  When I have had angina or another medical issue that kept me pretty much bedridden, I have appreciated that I don't have to panic about having to get to my computer, that in essence, I'm given a reprieve until my health resumes.  Just how this relates to me.  I'm sure everyone has their own unique perspective;  that's the thing we should each appreciate.  Compassion is indicated.

Sorry, I failed to cite the quote to which I was referring.

ok, then i think theres only 1 solution to all this discussion. To create the option: games with no vacation.

Then, those who dont like vacation play without vacation, and those who think vacation is ok play with vacation. And then both sides are happy, is it ok this way i think, like has been done with tournaments.

What i fear is that this kind of thing will divide chess.com in 2 groups. Those who will only play with vacation and those that will only play without vacation.

although i keep my opinion about vacation. I consider no problem to allow vacation to people who need to rest or because of work. If you think different, then ok, each one has its own opinion. Just dont blame those who use vacation without any kind of cheating.

Yes, I am uniformed about the automatic vacation option.  However, I am sure that the statement I did make applies to some people.  I hope that everything is well with you today and yes the option is good for some people with life situtations that happen unexpectedly.  The vacation time seems to have a good purpose and people do you use it for good purposes and as I read more posts about it my viewpoint is broadened.  Yet, I still think some use it abusively.

What's the deal with going "on vacation" when you are in check?  I think it's bush league.

I am currently playing a tournament game where it has reached 96 moves! This is the longest game I've had. It's my opponent's turn to move, and he's gone on vacation! He is in a winning position. I read that a player must play all their moves before going on vacation, but this is not the case here. He had 65 minutes to move in a 1 move/day match. Does anyone have a similar experience, and/or can offer advice?