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No e for the Scotch Whisky.

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I'm waiting for wireless headphones that will work from brainwaves.

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So he can order pizza with his whiskey.

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"W8 is the first OS that the user has to do so much in order to accomplish basic things"

What an ironic statement, pretty much all OSs you need to do so much to change it from the factory norm and get used to it they shoudn't customise it for you you should customise it for yourself

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BorgQueen wrote:
blasterdragon wrote:

you can't really say that its bad just because you don't like it...

I don't like it for very good reasons.  I don't say it is bad because I don't like it.  I say I don't like it because it is bad.

... can you post all of your arguments in one post so i can see it and everyone can decide please?

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blasterdragon wrote:

"W8 is the first OS that the user has to do so much in order to accomplish basic things"

What an ironic statement, pretty much all OSs you need to do so much to change it from the factory norm and get used to it they shoudn't customise it for you you should customise it for yourself

Ironic?

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Found this recently (and in about 5 seconds).  I'm sure there are other good vids out there too.

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BorgQueen wrote:

So you can talk to yourself telepathically??


I'm doing it now! Lol

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blasterdragon wrote:

"W8 is the first OS that the user has to do so much in order to accomplish basic things"

What an ironic statement, pretty much all OSs you need to do so much to change it from the factory norm and get used to it they shoudn't customise it for you you should customise it for yourself

I pretty much left my Windows 7 laptop factory... didn't need to change hardly anything.  Maybe all I did was delete any program that had 'norton' in its title...  My XP machines were the same.  Now Vista... that took me at least a day to attempt all the work arounds to speed it up (and it still was TERRIBLE). 

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Trying to make one OS that works for phones, tablets and PCs is a great idea. Execution is where the trouble comes into paradise though.

Note that Windows isn't there yet either, the mobile and PC OS are not the same versions... yet.

Ideal input interfaces definitely differ from device to device, with touch screen keyboards being near useless and vertical touchscreens also being a dumb idea, but those are fine points. The idea of convergence is, itself, sound.

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The mouse and keyboard paradigm needs to be torn down. I'm thinking eye tracking and voice recognition, or maybe a supercharged combination of Microsoft's Kintect tech along with 3D screens for a Minority Report style UI (though with 3D displays why were the objects being manipulated in that movie still 2D?).

Mark my words, the days of the mouse are numbered. The keyboard may not be far behind.

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Funny how the Microsoft/ Windows (US) telling us that we should change and adapt, what about the US go into metric ? 

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Do you code from your phone today? If not I wouldn't get too fussed about it.

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I bought new laptop w/W8 installed. Also IE. I haven't had any problems so far. Sounds like a compatability issue with updates from W/7. Java works fine, just make sure you have the latest version. 

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BorgQueen wrote:

Windows 8 is complete and utter CRAP for the desktop, face it.

It's ok, for mobile devices / touch screens, but I am not selling it or promoting it for the desktop or laptop user.   Hopefully Microsoft will see the light and again come up with a good one, in keeping with its PC OS hit/miss ratio.

Windows 3  FAIL Windows 3.11  Good Windows 95 FAIL Windows 98 Good Windows ME FAIL Windows XP Great Windows Vista MEGA FAIL Windows 7  Excellent Windows 8  SUPER MEGA ULTRA FAIL Windows ?  ???
BTW, who wants to actually do work on a touch screen??  I certainly don't.  If I had to write software on a [Insert Expletive Here] touchscreen I think I would be seeking a career change.  Give me mouse/keys any day... nothing can replace the tactile feel of the homekeys... anyone who can type without looking at their keyboard will understand.  Touchscreens are for non-professionals imo.

I may be a dinosaur but Vista runs very well on this site and i've had no issues with it.When you buy a new system,they load it up with bloatware.Often to get the best performance you have do do some uninstalls and performance tweaks.

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I have an old laptop with vista I only get out to back something up, get online or make text documents (no java, flash, any extra programs, etc.)  Can be useful if main computer goes down hard.  And it works great for me too.

Which is to say, if you don't use your computer for much, then any operating system will work just fine.

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I use android on a tablet for most of my play. I have noticed that I can drag my pieces to new position some of the time while at other times I must click on the piece and then click on where I want to move. Once I realized this my problems went away.

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By 2017 there will be as many tablets sold per year as PCs. 20-30% YoY growth. Windows 8 will survive and app development will outpace Apple and Google.

In 2-3 years you won't be able to purchase a laptop without a touch screen.

April 2014 M$ stops supporting WinXP... fast forward and Windows 7 suffers same fate.

Get on board, kids... and to the site developers... I'm still waiting for a touch-redesign to particularly the live chess gameplay.

Cheers.

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TheGrobe wrote:

The mouse and keyboard paradigm needs to be torn down. I'm thinking eye tracking and voice recognition, or maybe a supercharged combination of Microsoft's Kintect tech along with 3D screens for a Minority Report style UI (though with 3D displays why were the objects being manipulated in that movie still 2D?).

 

Mark my words, the days of the mouse are numbered. The keyboard may not be far behind.

 

If you're being serious with the (apparent) assumption that keyboards and mice might be fully replaced and superseded by gimmickry such as voice recognition and touch input, I'm afraid you might have fallen victim to the undying propaganda of the "innovators" of the last 6-8 years.

It is no coincidence that mice have been in widespread use since some three decades, and a keyboard essentially since the typewriter had first been invented some 150 years ago. They simply provide the most effective all-around input methods there are. However, their supposed sin (at least in the eyes of corporate executives and marketing staff) is that they are "old" and non-flashy, and as such provide no additional vector to rise profit - that's why some groups of interest seem to be bent on phasing them out in favor of something "new" that sells much better if hyped up sufficiently.

Keyboards and mice are extremely precise, are operated with minimal effort, and maintain an acceptable level of discretion. On the other hand, both touchscreen input and voice recognition are clumsy, imprecise, and (especially the latter) inherently ambiguous, cause much more strain by prolonged use, and are much less private or secure.

 

Keyboard/mouse input:

- precise character input, precise pointing with close to pixel-perfect accuracy;

- requires only movement of wrists and fingers;

- for an observer not in immediate proximity, it is hard to follow what input is fed into the computing device.

 

Voice/touchscreen input:

- touch input is only reasonably precise if performed with a stylus, mainstream touch input relies on fingers which renders it extremely imprecise (and as such unsuitable for applications which require high precision); voice communication is inherently ambiguous by nature, let alone if used as input for a computer system;

- touch input routinely requires the movement of whole hands or even arms (vertical touchscreens); prolonged voice input obviously puts strain on vocal cords, one which is not present when using a keyboard;

- voice input is obviously intercepted in a trivially easy manner by any ear or microphone within a certain distance, it also raises the acoustic noise level in the area; similarly, it is much easier for a bystander to track input performed directly by hands on a screen in comparison to when a tiny pointer is being moved indirectly by the means of a mouse or trackball.

 

Twenty years ago nobody in their right mind would take touch or voice seriously as even halfway reliable and usable general input methods.  However, in the much less distant past new innovations were desperately demanded by corporate executives to increase profit margins.

The "innovators" were most likely inspired by stuff they saw in Johnny Mnemonic and Minority Report, the marketing folks were delighted, and it was decided to push these clumsy but flashy ideas onto the mass market. The latter is much more numb, gullible, and disposable than a decade or two ago - Microsoft would presumably not even think about trying to roll out something like Windows 8 in, say, 2001, but today they seem to be utterly convinced that "everyone will get over it" eventually anyway.

Additonally, tablets turn out to be much cheaper to produce than laptops or netbooks. Also, their screens, being pawed and palpated on a constant basis, are more susceptible to damage, thus fitting much better into the "planned obscolescence" concept.

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Maybe use simple board?

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