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Hi,

Guys another game I played and won. Have I done any mistakes? ANything to improve on? please post your comments freely...

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That game was long but finally i won...

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Ok look nc6 helps move the queen outta the way.if i get that pawn. that means i am 2 pieces down. you with me? Now I move pawn e6 to e7 allowing my other pieces to get in formation later and also preventing his d4 pawn from moving forward. Then you move the bishop so white king is in check and later he moves the bishop . Now you can see that i have forced him to take out his queen and stop his formation.

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Helen_Reddy_1974 wrote:

Some day you should learn that giving up a piece for some slight (or even imagined) positional gain is stupid!


Ok

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Helen_Reddy_1974 wrote:

Yeah answering 1. d4 with ...Nc6 is freakin' stupid!  Black's primary goal in any 1. d4 opening is to prevent white from being able to play e4! So ...Nc6 doesn't do anything!

Sane responses to 1.d4 are 1. ...d5 and 1. ...Nf6 .  Both prevent 2. e4.  

To sum up, 1. ...Nc6 deserves a ?? and is freakin' stupid!

The above game transposed directly to a Nimzovich Defense (1. e4 Nc6 2. d4). That opening is fully playable for Black.

As are the Tchigorin Defense to the Queen's Gambit (1.d4 d5 2. c4 Nc6) - which actually has a BETTER winning percentage on the database than 2. ... e6 does - and the Ragozin. All of those openings involve Black blocking the c-Pawn on c7 by placing his Knight on c6 in the opening.

Even when played immediately (1. d4 Nc6), Black's winning chances are virtually identical to the prospects he gets by replying 1. ... d5 instead.

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Thanks for that bleemu

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hit1233 wrote:

Btw guessing from the name ur a girl helen so you wouldnt know as males have higher tactical intellect than females

Just a tip, don't think too much of it or anything, but maybe taking swipes at all women is not the best way to handle a chess dispute.  Certainly doesn't add any civility to the discussion.

 
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Turtles_are_Brave wrote:
hit1233 wrote:

Btw guessing from the name ur a girl helen so you wouldnt know as males have higher tactical intellect than females

Just a tip, don't think too much of it or anything, but maybe taking swipes at all women is not the best way to handle a chess dispute.  Certainly doesn't add any civility to the discussion.

 


My bad! Sorry!

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Try this:

17. . . Ne3+

18. Kc1   Qxc2#

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MSteen wrote:

Try this:

17. . . Ne3+

18. Kc1   Qxc2#

Isn't c2 protected by the bishop?

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KingGeorgeIX wrote:
MSteen wrote:

Try this:

17. . . Ne3+

18. Kc1   Qxc2#

Isn't c2 protected by the bishop?

Never post before having your coffee. Oops.

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OK, I'm going to try to redeem myself after my idiotic "not-mate" suggestion. I'm looking at the position after 7. . . . Nh6. In 7 moves you've moved this knight 4 times, neglecting the development of your other pieces. If white now takes the knight with his bishop, you will lose a vastly overdeveloped piece for one that has not been developed at all. In addition, you'll be saddled with doubled pawns on the rook file.

I think one of the big mistakes you make in this game is simply an overall lack of development in favor of hunting down material. Against a weaker player this has obviously worked, but as competition gets stronger, that will hurt you.

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MSteen wrote:

OK, I'm going to try to redeem myself after my idiotic "not-mate" suggestion. I'm looking at the position after 7. . . . Nh6. In 7 moves you've moved this knight 4 times, neglecting the development of your other pieces. If white now takes the knight with his bishop, you will lose a vastly overdeveloped piece for one that has not been developed at all. In addition, you'll be saddled with doubled pawns on the rook file.

I think one of the big mistakes you make in this game is simply an overall lack of development in favor of hunting down material. Against a weaker player this has obviously worked, but as competition gets stronger, that will hurt you.

Thanks for the tip

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MSteen wrote:

OK, I'm going to try to redeem myself after my idiotic "not-mate" suggestion. I'm looking at the position after 7. . . . Nh6. In 7 moves you've moved this knight 4 times, neglecting the development of your other pieces. If white now takes the knight with his bishop, you will lose a vastly overdeveloped piece for one that has not been developed at all. In addition, you'll be saddled with doubled pawns on the rook file.

White doesn't need to trade off that Knight in order to prove that Black has lost time in the opening. It took Black's Knights five moves to reach their current stations on h6 and f6. They could have gotten there in three moves instead (Ngh6, Nbd7-f6). Black has already lost at least two moves... and it's pretty clear that the position of the Knight on h6 is not worth the tempi expended in reaching that spot, so you could call it four moves lost instead. All this, without White needing to trade off his Bishop.