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What's nice is that I don't consider myself up-to-date on the comings and goings of the censorship policies.

But now that you mention it, I think live chess 2 chat has been much better than live chess 1 chat. Bravo, Erik!

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bigpoison wrote:
CPawn wrote:
krapp wrote:

I understand that this is a family site and that bad language has to be controlled somehow. But what excuse is there besides laziness or indifference for not making an optional filter for users who want to speak (and be spoken to) naturally with an acquaintance (or stranger)? Do the site's owners object to customizability and free communication between consenting individuals? Or is it just easier not to care?

The most discouraging comment in this whole discussion (and which sheds light on the preceding paragraph) is Erik's conclusion: "It's my site, so I make the rules." Erik, that's the same kind of short-sighted solipsism that ruins so many other sites: a founder who refuses to soften his grip on the project and ends up only pleasing himself. For the good of the site, try to think of us (Chess.com users) as members of a community and not just grateful visitors to "your site."


 Again...when you joined this site there were rules you agreed to.  If you dont like those rules then you have the ability to leave and go somewhere else.  What i absolutely dont understand is why so many "must" cuss when typinig.  I can understand blurting something out due to anger, stress, or hitting your thumb with a hammer.  But taking the time to type out a cuss word when there are so many other words that work just as well is inexcusable.


I've been accused of swearing like a sailor.  I'm with CPawn on this one.  There is something grating about seeing cuss words written on a computer screen.  It is wholly different from the spoken word.


 Thank You BP!  I think we can safely say that we are pretty much all guilty to some extent of throwing out the F bomb, or some other word.  But to take the time and actually type it?  And at the very least i do sensor myself when children or women are around.  At a bar with friends then thats a different story.  But to take the time ti type in a curse word, and then complain that you cant curse?  You agreed to the sites terms, abide by them or leave.

Avatar of kohai

Alot of abusive words in other languages are detected by the filter  yes

Avatar of ozzie_c_cobblepot

For this issue in particular, I have no problem abiding by whatever the staff feel is appropriate. If they ultimately decide that we may only communicate using a predefined list of emoticons, then here is what I say:

As long as you develop one which means "anybody up for a 1 0 game, 1600+ please" I'll be good.

Avatar of DanielleSurferGirl

It comes down to this are you here to play chess or to curse & use bad words? if you are more concerned with speaking as you'd like, then find a site where you can talk any way you want. This is a chess site, so you have to watch your language. If you don't like it you are free not to be here. No one is holding you here against your will. 

Avatar of asampedas

And it comes down to the young minds on this sides. Feeding them with vulgarities can make them grow up to become an uncivilized citizen of any country.

Think about it. Our children are our future.

Avatar of gordonyoung

Using bad language is just a sign of an inability to express ones self and is down

to ignorance and a lack of education.

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Schachgeek wrote:

Where I used to work, people would bring in dvd's to watch during slack time that were inappropriate for the work place, people engaged in sex acts, explicit language etc so I as a supervisor lobbied the boss to create a standard to protect us from a lawsuit.

He did, reluctantly. Nothing rated higher than tvma or pg-13.

After several years of being hammered by a few of his favorite employees who were ignorant of sexual harassment laws, my boss relented and abolished the standards.

I went to the next level of management and asked that this matter be reviewed by the county counsel and guess what?  I ended up being ridiculed and eventually terminated. And you know that lawsuit that I wanted to protect my employer from? Could be I will be filing it.

Anyway I fully understand the "why" about standards. I also understand there is no easy way to please everyone.


Why would you file a lawsuit?  Are you a victim?  Had you kept your mouth shut and minded your own garden you would not have been terminated.

Circumvention of the established chain of command is a great way to engender anger in both subordinates and superiors.

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Schachgeek wrote:
kohai wrote:

Alot of abusive words in other languages are detected by the filter  yes


That's where it would get interesting, because in English cola is perfectly innocuous but in Spanish it means a person's rear end.

I support the idea of filters and having at least some standard in place...but that said, context and idioms and dialects would make such a filter complex and clumsy.

Where I used to work, people would bring in dvd's to watch during slack time that were inappropriate for the work place, people engaged in sex acts, explicit language etc so I as a supervisor lobbied the boss to create a standard to protect us from a lawsuit.

He did, reluctantly. Nothing rated higher than tvma or pg-13.

After several years of being hammered by a few of his favorite employees who were ignorant of sexual harassment laws, my boss relented and abolished the standards.

I went to the next level of management and asked that this matter be reviewed by the county counsel and guess what?  I ended up being ridiculed and eventually terminated. And you know that lawsuit that I wanted to protect my employer from? Could be I will be filing it.

Anyway I fully understand the "why" about standards. I also understand there is no easy way to please everyone.


 Good grief !  A few questions here ..... were the people engaging in sex acts on the videos or the people in the work place ? Both ?  And what kinda work place is/was this ?!!

I remember I once had a supervisor that was messing with another man's wife. The other man also worked with me and was under the same supervisor but we worked different shifts. One day the supervisor was bragginf to me about his sexual exploits with the other guy's wife and I told him what I really thought of him for this and not long after that he found some trumped up reason to fire me.  What's wrong with people these days?!

Avatar of dec_lan

Erik, still just wondering about my question-- What about those phrases that don't have a single obscenity in them, but are incredibly vile?

Avatar of sasha2

I don't get it- why write swear words? If you have an unbeliavable urge to cuss- just say it- don't type it! Mabey, even better, don't say it at all!

Avatar of MarioMasterTAR

Everyone know cusses but some don't use it

Avatar of Musikamole

Perhaps we are missing an opportunity? Maybe Erik and his staff could create a game improving filter. This filter would only permit big words to pass through while blocking all of the bad words.

Why big words? I'm suggesting that there's a direct correlation between a strong command of any language and strong chess play. Notice, I only used one big word. How will I ever get better at chess. I know, the new and improved - 

Game Improving Filter!  Laughing

Avatar of DevilD

I had a similar problem.... I played a game where it was going to be a draw, and numerous exchanges took place. I mentioned something along the lines of "a t+t for tat", which is a common expression. I was a little surprised at what happened as most are when it occurs in instances such as these. 

And I agree that children should not be exposed to certain types of language, but not when it limits non-offensive language more than offensive ones.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety."   - Benjamin Franklin

Avatar of bjazz

If only George Carlin was with us.

Avatar of kohai

The auto filter  goes on content not context. So when you type into main chat or game chat "a t+t for tat", the auto filter detects the word itself, not whether you're using it in an innocent sentence, or actually calling someone by that word.

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gordonyoung wrote:

Using bad language is just a sign of an inability to express ones self and is down

to ignorance and a lack of education.


   I can't say I agree with that. I have a BA  in History and am 2 classes away from my Master's in Social Sciences, and I curse probably daily. Sometimes a curse word IS the most effective way to express oneself.

   However, that does not mean that I don't  know when cursing is not appropriate for me to use. I could never argue against any policy in which the prime factor in its employ are the consideration of children or young adults.

   I didn't read any type of Chess.com policy rules etc...when I joined, and I just recently said in a game: "well I certainly screwed that up" and I was warned or threatened with being banned. I couldn't figure out what in the world I could have done for that to come up on my screen...until now,  with this topic thread, I understand what I did and why it happened. So now I will say "...boy I really fouled that up".

   It's not down to ignorance and a lack of education. If one can't keep from cursing when they type- because all typing occurs after the thought, it's more a issue of a lack of respect or even some self control. It makes the people who don't like or want to hear or see the cursing much more happier for not seeing or hearing it than it makes me mad or angry for not being able to say it or type it. Just be considerate of the wishes of others if those wishes are within the realm of reasonableness, and I think these wishes are certainly reasonable enough.

   So, I will comply.

Avatar of smileative

I was chattin' with some friends on a site an' we discovered that we couldn't type the word 'cliffs' - we were actually for some inane reason talking about the song "The White Cliffs of Dover" - well, after the initial hilarity, I asked 'the prefects' why this was , was told it was cos the word contained ffs which is apparently a commonly used acronym Laughing more hilarity Laughing

Avatar of DRcheckmate

well there is no atumatic bann thats only if they report you or else its a warning the next time you swear you get banned from chatting for 30 minutes

Avatar of RetGuvvie98

the 'automod' system works without human intervention or action.  Their vulgarity is not visible to users, but staff can see the posts and can/do take action for egregious posts by those afflicted with "uncontrollable Tourette's Syndrome on their keyboards".    Those folks need help that they cannot get through live chess, and need to seek it elsewhere. 

regards,