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Playing against idiots on live chess who don't resign when whole pieces down without compensation and go on until mate is frustrating me to no end. I reckon that I would be able to spend twice the time on interesting chess if people resigned when they had to. I don't want to start the entire resignation debate again, but there should be a general consensus on that playing until mate in every game by anyone but a beginner is simply rude. Therefore, I propose that an algorithm be devised to see in what percentage of games someone played on while down significant material, and if this percentage is too high they get a warning and if they insist a ban. This makes the game more fun for all of us and does something against griefers who are just out to waste their opponents' time.

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paulgottlieb wrote:

Yes! I agree that when my opponents don't resign whenever I want them to, they should all be banned--as well as anyone who looks at me funny


We only look at you funny because we think it was you who farted.

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Salaskan wrote:

I don't want to start the entire resignation debate again, but


but you just can't resist, right?  Another person who wants the rules of chess changed to accomodate his impatience and intolerance.  Yawn.

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El_Senior wrote:

Waaaa. 

If you can't finish the job then you probably weren't winning in the first place. Just go finish the job.

Bogus idea because everybody knows (except for chess beginners) that material advantage alone is not the only thing that matters in chess. 

For example, let's say I sacrifice a piece for a forced mate, pawn promotion, a cute fork or skewer winning material down the road etc.

Your "method" is only going to count material/points and assume I'm demonstrating poor sportsmanship when in fact it's more sour grapes on your part. 

I repeat, if you are winning - win. If you can't win, you're a loser. 


Of course it wouldn't work just to count material, but the positions would have to be evaluated with an engine. If it turns out that in over half of his games someone is playing on for dozens of moves in positions that are -5 or worse for him, he's just griefing. Of course I can win these positions, but it is a boring waste of time that has no point to it. In any chess club anyone who keeps doing this would be unwelcome for displaying such rude behaviour, so why not here?

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El_Senior wrote:

Both players have the right to play on. If you find that boring, perhaps chess is not for you. 


Just about every master would completely disagree.

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I'm so glad to see you're still not continuing the old resignation debate.

Grow up.  If you don't like the rules for a game, find a different game.

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Yawn.

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Nobody is going to invent a new ratings system for this. (Nor should they, manners are not really part of chess skill.) What you do when someone plays on unjustifiably is, you win, you decline a rematch, and block them.

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Atos wrote:

Nobody is going to invent a new ratings system for this. (Nor should they, manners are not really part of chess skill.) What you do when someone plays on unjustifiably is, you win, you decline a rematch, and block them.


Or you could first go on and on about how they wasted your precious time, and then dream up convoluted and unworkable methods to make sure this never happens in the future.

BTW, right now I'm playing a correspondence game in which my opponent is down to one rook and I have a rook and and four pawns. My opponent takes up to four days between moves. I don't get why anyone would want to stretch losing a game out for weeks, but whatever floats your boat...

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Conquistador wrote:

Yawn.

 


Dammit the sky is too blue...oh...Sluggo.

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RetGuvvie98 wrote:
scotchfaster wrote:

BTW, right now I'm playing a correspondence game in which my opponent is down to one rook and I have a rook and and four pawns. My opponent takes up to four days between moves. I don't get why anyone would want to stretch losing a game out for weeks, but whatever floats your boat...


I agree with Atos - block them after beating them.

scotchfaster, you might want to try getting multiple queens if he won't resign, but if you do, be careful not to allow him to get into a stalemated position and his rook become a desperado running around capturing things and annoying your king endlessly.   or just get one, pin his rook, exchange the queen for it, and mate him with your king and rook.....  while keeping the other three pawns in reserve.

Thanks for the input, but it looks like this game will end in only one of two ways: I checkmate him sometime later this year, or resign out of sheer boredom. Draw or stalemate is not an option.

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