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tactiquero escribió:
Blackenne escribió:

If you found your rating has dropped instead of increased, please write to support!

https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/emails/new

@tactiquero I fixed yours 

Thank you very much for your quick response I suppose I could extend my membership for another year

@tactiquero, your new rating is bad. Your previous rating were 1835, and aplying the rule for 1800+ (400 points boost) , your new rating must be 2235, as every 1800+. 

(vamos que te han "volao" 2OO puntos ;) ) Saludos.

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petrip wrote:
steve_bute wrote:

The problem may recur (no guess as to how long it will take) while the 1200 anchor remains. Why not use provisional ratings rather than an anchor?

Given the Glicko maths works new players ratingis provisional. If win or loas player with freh 1200 it will not change your rating and his/her may well swiin 200 points. Just different kind of provisional.

(1) Are you certain that my rating does not change when I play against a new player? (2) Even if so, you have no idea how long it will take for a new player's rating to settle to its proper place; a provisional rating can get it near the true value very quickly. (3) Anecdotally, I have about 30 CC games here, and my CC rating is still about 300 points lower than it has been in the past under similar non-chess.com rating systems. I would need to play another 15-20 games for it to stabilize. If I had been provisionally rated it would have stabilized by now -and- the rating distortion to my opponents' ratings would not have occurred (or at least would have been much less).

I managed a chess rating system a long time ago. The starting rating is quite important. When a starting rating is assumed immediately from a new player's first game, then every game he plays distorts the rating pool (a little) until his rating stabilizes. But the distortion to the rating pool remains and is permanent. If you have a large influx of new players, the distortions accumulate across the population.

When a "provisional rating" is used, a new player is (1) given a rating estimate based on his play against opponents having established ratings (i.e. not other new players), and then (2) opponents' ratings are calculated based on the estimate. Distortion can still occur, but on average it is greatly reduced.

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The new players using Glicko system had a very high RD. The amount of points you can gain or loose are multiplied for RD (you)/RD(your opponent).

At the begining the rating of the new players change very quickly and the rating of their opponents change very slowly.

It is not really important if the first rating is 1200 o 1350. The difference between win or loss at the first game could be more than 200 points to a new player.

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Where is my boost? :-(

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No boost for me either :(

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GeniusKJ wrote:

No boost for me either :(

Just played a game to test, and it seems you get the boost after a played game!

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If you look at the profiles of the people claiming they've had no rating boost you'll see that most are mistaken.

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@SmyslovFan,

Not really. Staff is just on top of it once we mention it! Mine has been adjusted as of about 30 min ago.

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SmyslovFan wrote:

If you look at the profiles of the people claiming they've had no rating boost you'll see that most are mistaken.

I'm one of the least. 1748 when the boost was applied, and the only changes since then are due to new games. I played only one person who had the boost in his rating.

I weep to think of how much has to be wrong with the world if I show as 2048 for 15-minute rapid. Even before I became senile I never managed to crack 2000 OTB.

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I have had no rating boost!!! Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!!!!!

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Kacparov wrote:

The biggest problem I see is that now people will refuse to play any games to keep their 2500+, or even 2700+ rating

You got it, I'm keeping my +400 rating Wink. Play me in live chess though Smile.

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jaadlh_6691 escribió:
tactiquero escribió:
Blackenne escribió:

If you found your rating has dropped instead of increased, please write to support!

https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/emails/new

@tactiquero I fixed yours 

Thank you very much for your quick response I suppose I could extend my membership for another year

@tactiquero, your new rating is bad. Your previous rating were 1835, and aplying the rule for 1800+ (400 points boost) , your new rating must be 2235, as every 1800+. 

(vamos que te han "volao" 2OO puntos ;) ) Saludos.

Lo sé perfectamente, pero ni los quiero ni los necesito. Lo que no me parecía admisible es que me los bajaran "por la cara" mientras los otros estaban brindando con champán por los 400 puntos extraWink

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guys.whats OTB?Foot in Mouthand what is kN/s in engines?

 

PLZ REPLY

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OTB = Over The Board = real chess

I don't know what's kN/s, wait for another response

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kilo nodes per second? found it somewhere on net

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fischer3 wrote:

I have had no rating boost!!! Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!!!!!

Mine only rose after I'd played a couple of Standard games, then I got my +200.

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FYI, an American National Master, NM @FLChessplayer, played 86 games at Standard Chess time controls and couldn't get his rating much above 1550.

He complained (loudly) to the Cheating Forum group.  Got muzzled, and hasn't returned to the site as yet.  That happened about a month ago.

Now the site has shook up the ratings in Standard Chess (Live).

Draw your own conclusions.  Lots of possibilities here, regardless.

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I think this has been one of the worst ideas, not that giving someone a boost but how it was being done. Now we have tons of ratings completely misrepresenting the skill of a player.

What I would have suggested is that in the next couple of months every player gets double points for the next 10 or so won games and every loss stays the same (ex. win +16 draw +0 loss -8) in that way the average elo goes up without distorting all the ratings. Once enough rating points have been introduced to the standard rating pool it goes back to normal.

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Poldi_der_Drache wrote:

I think this has been one of the worst ideas, not that giving someone a boost but how it was being done. Now we have tons of ratings completely misrepresenting the skill of a player.

What I would have suggested is that in the next couple of months every player gets double points for the next 10 or so won games and every loss stays the same (ex. win +16 draw +0 loss -8) in that way the average elo goes up without distorting all the ratings. Once enough rating points have been introduced to the standard rating pool it goes back to normal.

That's just as bad because it rewards active players more than their results deserve.

Both the idea and execution were bad.

Ratings aren't an objective evaluation so there's no need for them to mirror FIDE/USCF or any other rating.

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LongIslandMark wrote:

Maybe starting titled players at their FIDE rating would be a better solution (could start all players at their FIDE rating for standard).

That's too good and easy an idea for it to be implemented here