What's this bull: "Game drawn - timeout vs insufficient material"

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Black runs out of time: white wins: a series of legal moves exists that leads to checkmate.
White runs out of time: draw: no series of legal moves exists that leads to checkmate.

binomine
ElwynT wrote:

@binomine I'd think u were trolling but what troll goes through all the effort of adding images to just be wrong?

lol, that's because I did it upside down.  opps. 

ElwynT
binomine wrote:

If white runs out of time. 

FIDE: win for black

^ from your first post, surely you meant, if black runs out of time, FIDE: win for white... as black only has a king on the board

 

JTHXYZ

Both sides can't win so it's a draw

 

darkunorthodox88

this kind of stuff leads to some funny issues ,

what if your opponent has two knights vs king? you cannot FORCE a checkmate but the king can helpmate itself there . similarly, two knights vs one which is an easy draw 

- what if you add a pawn which interestingly often allows for the two knights to checkmate? (very difficult) 

-what about bishop and knight vs opposite colored bishop where a checkmate is possible on that bishop's color corner? imagine a bishop on b7and king on g3, and your opponents king on h1, with knight on h2 and bishop on g1

the stupid part of this is that  in a lot of these situations if you see two decent players achieve these types of situations, the proper result should be obvious .

GalaxyWolfGX

hello

 

texaspete

Lots of bugs in the system due to the need for simplicity so that the computer can adjudicate the result.

For example, I ran out of time as black in the game below and was wrongly awarded a draw in my opinion as there is a possible win for white.



I’m also pretty sure that the position below would be awarded as a win for black on chess.com if white ran out of time 

Duckfest
Mr-Mudd wrote:

This post is a few years old.  The OP is probably over it by now.

^^

not-huy

i personally think it's cause when one don't have enough material to win, and the other don't have enough time to win, so it's a draw because neither can win

KevinOSh

To avoid the players who are the best at losing all of their pieces and then flagging being lauded as the best speed chess players. They are not.

not-huy

https://support.chess.com/article/268-my-opponent-ran-out-of-time-why-was-it-a-draw