Why do I gain so little points for winning?

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Hi all,

Today I played against a friend who was rated roughly 250 points higher than me. I quite swiftly won by checkmate, yet I was only awarded 17 points for the win. He, on the other hand, lost 100 points. Why do I get the same amount of points for winning against someone with a very similar rating to mine, but also when I play against someone with a much higher rating?

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bruno645 wrote:

Hi all,

Today I played against a friend who was rated roughly 250 points higher than me. I quite swiftly won by checkmate, yet I was only awarded 17 points for the win. He, on the other hand, lost 100 points. Why do I get the same amount of points for winning against someone with a very similar rating to mine, but also when I play against someone with a much higher rating?

The two games in your archive for today show a 13 point rating change for the first game but none for the second, because it was an unrated game.

Ratings do not change in unrated games.
Your rating improved by only 13 in the first game while your friend's dropped by 100 because there are two components in ratings calculations now- the difference in ratings and a statististical judgement of how accurate the ratings are.

Your friend's rating changes more rapidly because he had only played 4 rated blitz games before playing you. His rating is considered very likely inaccurate so it changes a lot from game to game until it settles down.

Yours is more settled, so it changes by much less from game to game.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/chess-ratings---how-they-work

Avatar of RatsRCute

if i win against a player that has 300 more than me i get like 17 points butif i play someone lower they get like one hundred

Avatar of Galaxyz2025

why do i gain litle points when i win

Avatar of SwimsOnLand

Probably so you're not jumping through the ranks so fast

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SwimsOnLand wrote:

Probably so you're not jumping through the ranks so fast

i dont understand

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17 points is a lot for any single game.
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bruno645 wrote:

Hi all,

Today I played against a friend who was rated roughly 250 points higher than me. I quite swiftly won by checkmate, yet I was only awarded 17 points for the win. He, on the other hand, lost 100 points. Why do I get the same amount of points for winning against someone with a very similar rating to mine, but also when I play against someone with a much higher rating?

Your opponent may have been new to chess.com so the rating system must have been trying to find the elo group of the op, same's happening to me, but im not new im only new to blitz

Avatar of RH7777777

To be honest it doesn't matter. The ratings are relevant for about 50% of the players, I honestly believe that around 50% of players have ChessReps or Stockfish open while they're playing online and while many will dispute this the fact of the matter is that the levels are way too high for the ratings given. I'm an average player but I have been playing chess for fun for over 40 years and I've never seen such 'great players' below 1000. I hover around 700 on Chess.com and to be honest beyond this point everyone plays the same opening, the same counters and follow the same playbook.

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RH7777777 wrote:

To be honest it doesn't matter. The ratings are relevant for about 50% of the players, I honestly believe that around 50% of players have ChessReps or Stockfish open while they're playing online and while many will dispute this the fact of the matter is that the levels are way too high for the ratings given. I'm an average player but I have been playing chess for fun for over 40 years and I've never seen such 'great players' below 1000. I hover around 700 on Chess.com and to be honest beyond this point everyone plays the same opening, the same counters and follow the same playbook.

I think it's just your problem bud, everybody under 1000 will hang a piece every other move

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Nope, they don't though, they only fall down mid game, if they are countered unexpectedly. Bud

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Literally any game you see under 1000 rating is just pieces hanging left and right every move though, anybody with Stockfish open will be at least like 1500. Also I think there is a reason you are below 1000 when playing for 40 years, it cannot be 50% of people cheating when I can get 2000 rating in 5 days of playing

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that's cause your friens hasn't played enough games

Avatar of RH7777777

Strange, I regularly beat players in the real world of 1500+ and have only been playing on Chess.com for a few months. If you are seeing players 'hanging 'pieces below 1000 then we are definitely not playing on the same platform, this is the point I'm trying to make. These players should be leaving gaps all over the place at below 1000 but they don't. By the way, your attempt at insulting me is water off a ducks back, I think I may better chess folk to take flak from ... lol