If you didn't lose points for disconnections, people would disconnect themselves whenever they're losing to avoid losing points. With the current system, they can't do this; a loss is a loss.
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Why do disconnections affect our ratings?
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Yes.
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Jul 30, 2009
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I think that the people in charge will know the difference. They know exactly when you come on and come off. They know whether you disconnected or closed the window. But anyway, that isn't the context,i'm trying to get across. The concept is you have no intentions of coming off of live chess. You are in a close and good game. Somehow, you have the advantage and you are waxing warming towards a victory,and you disconnect. is it fair that you lose points? But yes good point G-money. it is appreciated.
Jul 30, 2009
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we don't know the difference. it is impossible to know. don't worry - this will all be behind us in a few weeks!
Isn't it strange how few people complain when they win lost positions because an opponent disconnected? I mean, logically, there has to be just as many of them.
Swings and roundabouts, I reckon....
erik wrote:
we don't know the difference. it is impossible to know. don't worry - this will all be behind us in a few weeks!
a few weeks? I wasn't aware of anything happening in a few weeks...
In a few weeks, Live Chess 2.0 is being released, which will hopefully significantly decrease the number of disconnects.
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erik wrote:
we don't know the difference. it is impossible to know. don't worry - this will all be behind us in a few weeks!
If I'm counting right, live chess 2.0 should be here in 2 weeks.
Jul 30, 2009
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ok then, point taken. but it does feel unfair at times. lol. thanks 4 all the responses. keep them coming.
This happens to me often...I've plunged from a score of over 1500 to less than 1100 mostly because of that???? I don't get it.....I'm thinking of giving up this site
In this game black has a few legal moves remaining,before facing a checkmate. However,"white" disconnects and the game is abandoned. Don't you think it's unfair for black to earn points,for almost losing a game? Don't you think that it's unfair that white should lose points for setting up such a good position for a checkmate, but having the game abandoned, which is beyond his control?
I say yes for both of them.
As a result of disconnections, many people would find that their rating doesn't match up to his chess skills. A good player can end up with a low rating. And a bad player can end up with a high rating because of disconnects. Don't you think that that is unfair. As a result, I believe that disconnections and abandoned games, SHOULD NOT affect our ratings.
What do you think?
I want to hear from you. ;) Feel free to post your point of view, whatever it may be. I will respect and accept any point of view posted in this forum. Please no offensive posts! Thank you for reading my post, and thank you in advance for your responses. ;)
rooperi wrote:
Isn't it strange how few people complain when they win lost positions because an opponent disconnected? I mean, logically, there has to be just as many of them.
Swings and roundabouts, I reckon....
Why is this strange?
People would then disconnect from the internet to avoid losing points.
padman wrote:
I think that if a player is disconnected, the game should be submitted for judging by moderators or volunteers. If the game is fairly close, then just cancel the game, but if one side is clearly better, I think the game should be classed as a win.
Using criteria like that would mean that it would only take 5 seconds for man, or perhaps 1/100th of a second for machine to work out.
Why go through all the hassle and trouble of setting up a system like that, when the underlying issue will be fixed soon?
I have played over 1500 long live chess games here and I've rarely ever been disconnected, but then I also follow all the advice given to avoid them
I lost about 100-200points due to disconnections. A few days ago, the connection failed every 20minutes or so and i lost a lot of points. Good thread colin and i hope this is rectified soon.
Sep 5, 2009
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As I have mentioned, I am an administrator on WCL, a chess playing site. I have been on Adjudication teams, as well, and the reason for the d/c loss thing is in place as a protection for honest players.
Yes, the staff here and at other chess sites know that sometimes, the Internet just fails. If this happens to you, it could result in a loss for that game. It is simply a risk that we take playing online chess. As has been mentioned, the "forfeit on disconnect" function is there to punish people who simply hit the big red X when losing, and to reward those who stick it out or resign.
It is a good rule, and in the end, it works out well for everyone, including all players and the administration team. Would you like it if you were playing at an OTB tourney, and once you found a mating net, your opponent saw it as well and just got up, never to return again? That is essentially the same thing that goes on when they d/c online. It's selfish, it's rude, it's bad sportsmanship. They lose. 
Sep 5, 2009
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#20
go try it here: www.chess.com/live <- you can NOT make it disconnect for a loss ;)
Why do we lose and points to disconnections? That is a question I am sure many people ask everyday on this website. I don't know the answer. But one thing I do know is that it is unfair, especially if you were winning the game.To back up my point of view.Look at this example:
Black (1212) White (1545)
In this game black has a few legal moves remaining,before facing a checkmate. However,"white" disconnects and the game is abandoned. Don't you think it's unfair for black to earn points,for almost losing a game? Don't you think that it's unfair that white should lose points for setting up such a good position for a checkmate, but having the game abandoned, which is beyond his control?
I say yes for both of them.
As a result of disconnections, many people would find that their rating doesn't match up to his chess skills. A good player can end up with a low rating. And a bad player can end up with a high rating because of disconnects. Don't you think that that is unfair. As a result, I believe that disconnections and abandoned games, SHOULD NOT affect our ratings.
What do you think?
I want to hear from you. ;) Feel free to post your point of view, whatever it may be. I will respect and accept any point of view posted in this forum. Please no offensive posts! Thank you for reading my post, and thank you in advance for your responses. ;)