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mrlua

I was left with this chess puzzle, with no solution.

Might anyone be able to solve this for me?

 

Black to move and win.

chuzzlechamp

??? what are you asking us to do ???

Hammerschlag

Qg6 looks good at first glance; white's response? Nd2 loses to Bxc3; Nxd4 met with Rxd4.

Qc6 wins a pawn; I do not see any way for white to protect.

Another possibility; Rxf3, gxf3 (ruining white's castle) then b4, as the knight on c3 cannot move or risk losing the Rook on a1. I think this is the solution they are loking for.

mrlua
Hammerschlag wrote:

Qg6 looks good at first glance; white's response? Nd2 loses to Bxc3; Nxd4 met with Rxd4.

Qc6 wins a pawn; I do not see any way for white to protect.

Another possibility; Rxf3, gxf3 (ruining white's castle) then b4, as the knight on c3 cannot move or risk losing the Rook on a1. I think this is the solution they are loking for.


Thanks, but the puzzle specifically says "To win" Foot in mouth

mountainsong

You can't win this in one move.

mrlua
kjmw wrote:

You can't win this in one move.


Ofcourse, but a winning solution is what's requested.

fischeryouth

goback to your source and see if it is a multiple move win

rafr

I agree with hammerschlag with the Rxf3 gxf3. Then, maybe 2. Qg6+ Kh1 3. Qh5 Bd1 4. b4

Hammerschlag
mrlua wrote:
Hammerschlag wrote:

Qg6 looks good at first glance; white's response? Nd2 loses to Bxc3; Nxd4 met with Rxd4.

Qc6 wins a pawn; I do not see any way for white to protect.

Another possibility; Rxf3, gxf3 (ruining white's castle) then b4, as the knight on c3 cannot move or risk losing the Rook on a1. I think this is the solution they are loking for.


Thanks, but the puzzle specifically says "To win"


 "To win" does not mean to check-mate. "To win" means getting into a good position and having good tactical chances. Winning a piece (sometimes a Bishop, Knight, Rook, or maybe even the Queen) can also mean "to win"

Lord-Chaos

Hammer, Black can take the pawn anyway with his knight =)

i agree with Rook takes Knight, then check if you want, but b4 wins you a piece, or if he moves his knight your piece for rook back.

boyerbcb77

Thinking the same thing.  Rxf3 looks like the best.  allowing for better continuation.  With a quick look anyway.

Hammerschlag
Lord-Chaos wrote:

Hammer, Black can take the pawn anyway with his knight =)

i agree with Rook takes Knight, then check if you want, but b4 wins you a piece, or if he moves his knight your piece for rook back.


 Which pawn are you referring to that "black" can take anyway? I'm not sure what you are trying to say; it would be awesome if you can explain further. If you are referring to the c4 pawn, the continuation could be. Nxd4, Rxd4; Ne2!, white is still good here, no problem for white; certainly not a winning move ("to win")

Rxf3, gxf3 (ruining white's castle) then b4, as the knight on c3 cannot move or risk losing the Rook on a1. With this, the white-King is exposed. If Ra(to a safe spot) Bxc3 forces the white-Queen to move. If Ne2(only safe spot), Bxa1, Qxa1. At this point Rd2 is winning. After Qc1, Rxe2; if Qe2, Rxc2.

By the way, if Bd1 to protect the Knight on e2, black: Qf7 places a lot of pressure on the f3 pawn. Maybe Qg6 first then pressure the f3 pawn might be better.

A lot of it depends on how white reacts: give up the Knight or Rook? My point is that it starts with Rxf3, sacrificing the exchange for the meantime.

b4 first does not work. Because the Bishop on d4 is under attack. That Knight on f3 must be removed first.

If anyone else can see something more than I do, please say so. I am not the greatest chess player, nor do I claim to be. I just thought Rxf3 was the best move.

gambiteman
chuzzlechamp wrote:

??? what are you asking us to do ???


 when I try to play against the computer the site comes up, but with no board

gambiteman
chuzzlechamp wrote:

??? what are you asking us to do ???


 what do i do to be able to play "against the computer" ? my email is ---sundoogy@gmail.com

gambiteman
gambiteman wrote:
chuzzlechamp wrote:

??? what are you asking us to do ???


 what do i do to be able to play "against the computer" ? my email is ---sundoogy@gmail.com


 in the puzzle I would take the knight

Nytik

I honestly can't see a way for black to win any more than about a pawn. If anyone thinks they can do better, post their idea here... I'm tracking the topic.