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Mate in 6!
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That was an awesome puzzle.
"Can you find the 6-move win?"
No, can you? Cause if so, you did something wrong. Why should black take the rook?
eBusiness wrote:
"Can you find the 6-move win?"
No, can you? Cause if so, you did something wrong. Why should black take the rook?
Black is not forced to take the Rook. It was a lure from White to try and remove the defender of the h3 square. Besides, if you were in that position I bet you would take the undefended Rook.
ADK
How obvious it is is no argument when talking about puzzles, if there is a way to defend it is not a puzzle.
Despite my many shortcomings in chess I really doubt that I would take that rook. You don't have to be a grandmaster to tell that blacks king position is seriously screwed. Whether or not one can find an actual mate it should be clear to any decent player that taking the rook will amplify whites thread.
By the way, Qf3 is the correct 3rd move for white.
ADK wrote:
eBusiness wrote:
"Can you find the 6-move win?"
No, can you? Cause if so, you did something wrong. Why should black take the rook?
Black is not forced to take the Rook. It was a lure from White to try and remove the defender of the h3 square. Besides, if you were in that position I bet you would take the undefended Rook.
ADK
that's a silly accusation, remember this is merely an intermediate puzzle. who would fall for such an intermediate trap?
wow. when black made the decision to fork instead of realising what white was doing to the pawn on f7, it was just do late to do anything.
forkypinner wrote:
ADK wrote:
eBusiness wrote:
"Can you find the 6-move win?"
No, can you? Cause if so, you did something wrong. Why should black take the rook?
Black is not forced to take the Rook. It was a lure from White to try and remove the defender of the h3 square. Besides, if you were in that position I bet you would take the undefended Rook.
ADK
that's a silly accusation, remember this is merely an intermediate puzzle. who would fall for such an intermediate trap?
What do you mean who? This puzzle is taken from a real game...
ADK
nice
ADK wrote:
What do you mean who? This puzzle is taken from a real game...
ADK
That doesn't make it a puzzle. Even grandmasters from time to time make blatant mistakes. You got to verify that they actually do make perfect play, preferably using a chess engine.
i like it thanks for the forum
eBusiness wrote:
ADK wrote:
What do you mean who? This puzzle is taken from a real game...
ADK
That doesn't make it a puzzle. Even grandmasters from time to time make blatant mistakes. You got to verify that they actually do make perfect play, preferably using a chess engine.
I would not call it a blatant mistake... Besides, I doubt there is ANY game with perfect play on both sides. Also, if you don't think this is a good solution to the puzzle: please feel free to post your solution then.
ADK
ADK wrote:
eBusiness wrote:
ADK wrote:
What do you mean who? This puzzle is taken from a real game...
ADK
That doesn't make it a puzzle. Even grandmasters from time to time make blatant mistakes. You got to verify that they actually do make perfect play, preferably using a chess engine.
I would not call it a blatant mistake... Besides, I doubt there is ANY game with perfect play on both sides. Also, if you don't think this is a good solution to the puzzle: please feel free to post your solution then.
ADK
I do agree that a puzzle should optimally have the best possible play from each side. Also eBusiness didn't mean that the entire game had to have perfect play, just the puzzle.
Oh, anyways, I still invite any one's solution.
ADK
That wasn't forced
Very nice puzzle!
Cool puzzle!! =)
Perfect play from the initial position is this, after the moves displayed there are multiple possible lines, the most plausible probably being 3... Qf6 4. Rf1. In any case white has got a clear lead being a pawn and an unspoiled king position up.
You could also have made a puzzle from the last 3 moves of the game, mate in 3:
eBusiness wrote:
Perfect play from the initial position is this, after the moves displayed there are multiple possible lines, the most plausible probably being 3... Qf6 4. Rf1. In any case white has got a clear lead being a pawn and an unspoiled king position up.
You could also have made a puzzle from the last 3 moves of the game, mate in 3:
Very nice! Although, the whole point of the puzzle was to exploit Black's greed... I guess I should post alternate solutions next time, if any.
ADK
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In this game, Burgess faced off against Randy Miller in 1974. Here, White stuns Black by diverting his Knight away using a Rook SAC in order to clear a path for the Queen! Without that Knight guarding the h3 square, White's Queen had access to the diagonal that would force mate. Now, Black just played 8...Nf2. Can you find the 6-move win? This is an intermediate puzzle. : )