Shortest-proof-game challenge

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Rocky64

Similar to n9531l1's but shorter...

EvinSung

n.e4 e5 n+1.fxe6#

Leither123

#5801

I kept getting 20 for a while, but I've managed to get to 19 after a bit of testing. Can anyone reach 18 moves or shorter?

Leither123
Rocky64 wrote:

Similar to n9531l1's but shorter...

 

Based on both games, I created a somewhat symmetrical version; it's not shorter, but I thought it looked somewhat nice.

n9531l1
Rocky64 wrote:

Similar to n9531l1's but shorter... (#5808)

 

That's really getting short. I wonder what BishopTakesH7 had ready.

n9531l1
BishopTakesH7 wrote:

Challenge: find the fastest game that ends with (white/black) playing Kxe1#.

It took me quite a few more moves to have the black king give the mate.

Rocky64
BishopTakesH7 wrote:

Challenge: find the fastest game that ends with (white/black) playing Kxe1#.

I interpreted this to mean Black plays the symmetrical Kxe8#!

BishopTakesH7
Rocky64 wrote:
BishopTakesH7 wrote:

Challenge: find the fastest game that ends with (white/black) playing Kxe1#.

I interpreted this to mean Black plays the symmetrical Kxe8#!

While interesting, that interpretation is incorrect.

RewanDemontay
n9531l1 wrote:
BishopTakesH7 wrote:

Challenge: find the fastest game that ends with (white/black) playing Kxe1#.

It took me quite a few more moves to have the black king give the mate.

 

I've gotten it down to a pretty tight 13 moves.

Arisktotle
RewanDemontay wrote:
n9531l1 wrote:
BishopTakesH7 wrote:

Challenge: find the fastest game that ends with (white/black) playing Kxe1#.

It took me quite a few more moves to have the black king give the mate.

 

I've gotten it down to a pretty tight 13 moves.

I'd say that's an XXXL compared to Rocky's lean costumes wink

n9531l1
Arisktotle wrote:
RewanDemontay wrote:

I've gotten it down to a pretty tight 13 moves.

I'd say that's an XXXL compared to Rocky's costumes

Before we can say that, we'll have to wait for Rocky to show us one with the black king capturing on e1.

Arisktotle
n9531l1 wrote:
Arisktotle wrote:
RewanDemontay wrote:

I've gotten it down to a pretty tight 13 moves.

I'd say that's an XXXL compared to Rocky's costumes

Before we can say that, we'll have to wait for Rocky to show us one with the black king capturing on e1.

He already did by tailoring yours!

Rocky64

Okay, here's one with a black ...Kxe1#.

n9531l1
Rocky64 wrote:

Okay, here's one with a black ...Kxe1#.

That's good, improving on Rewan's game by two moves. I'd say maybe an XL.

Still hoping to see BishopTakesH7's solutions.

Arisktotle

Ah, I didn't read the posts all that well. Somehow missed that the frame had moved to black Ke1#. What's that king doing there anyway? wink

EndgameEnthusiast2357

This thread got weird.

n9531l1
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

This thread got weird.

It was already weird. It even had someone who insisted a proof game had to end with a move by Black.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

I meant in terms of this ke1 thing.

Arisktotle
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

I meant in terms of this ke1 thing.

The proof game genre is very popular in the retro composition field. It is suitable to a mix with many different ingredients in stipulations and game types. Imagination is the limit. Attaching it to an end state condition like "Ke1#" is quite "orthodox" compared to many other puzzle types you will find "over there".

Arisktotle

Btw, Rocky's versions are hard to beat except for the half move you can gain by including Ke8#! I tried. wink