Strange problem

It sure is mate, all white pawns are in the 7th rank, not in the 2nd. But I think these kind of problems are called help-mate.


I liked that puzzle ...although it would never happen in a real game.


There is a way to happen. If you want, I will create one and post it.

I'm sure this isn't the optimal way, but I just made moves in Winboard until I caused this position:

That first puzzle is PURE AWESOME. LOL. You've got to love a puzzle where, after you show the solution... people are still: "NO. YOU IDJIT. NOT MATE." LOL. What makes it rock is that it's _not_ a help mate. (From the starting postion... obviously getting into the starting position required, if not help *ahem* less-than-ideal play from white ;)
The second puzzle is an old classic that soviet trainers would pull out to encourage their pupils to not make assumptions.
Talking to yourself?
Both puzzles are awesome. My first thought was "Wow...this guy must be confused." followed by "I want a lamborghini" followed by "Man I need to pee" followed by "Wait a second -- ROFL", followed by "Man, I really need to pee.".

DimKnight wrote: Both good problems. I'd like very much to see a proof game of that first one, though...would be interesting.
likesforests can provide a proof game in 10 minutes for this. But he is too busy with teaching 'My System' now.
[he provided proof game for my 16Qs on board mate-in-4 problem as well as 18 queens on board within 20 minutes of request:
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Black forces mate in two.