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England has just banned smoking in enclosed public space, for example, pubs, restaurants etc, and strangely train station platforms. Doesn't stop us smokers though, more of an inconvenience? At the same time (i think), they upped the able-to-buy-cigarettes age from 16 to 18.
In England, as of 01/07/2007 it has been illegal to smoke in all enclosed public places and all enclosed places of work (including Trucks). You can still smoke outside and in your own home (provided no-one works there).
MolotovRuss wrote: England has just banned smoking in enclosed public space, for example, pubs, restaurants etc, and strangely train station platforms. Doesn't stop us smokers though, more of an inconvenience? At the same time (i think), they upped the able-to-buy-cigarettes age from 16 to 18.
Doesn't stop you? In Portugal there is a hefty fine for anyone caught smoking in public places on the smoker AND the business in question. Anyone can report someone smoking to the people running a business and if they do nothing the individual can report it to police in which case the business will face heavy penalties for not enforcing the law. What's done in England ?
Also France and Germany has banned smoking... I hope in Bulgaria will ban smoking too.
Reb wrote: MolotovRuss wrote: England has just banned smoking in enclosed public space, for example, pubs, restaurants etc, and strangely train station platforms. Doesn't stop us smokers though, more of an inconvenience? At the same time (i think), they upped the able-to-buy-cigarettes age from 16 to 18.
Doesn't stop you? In Portugal there is a hefty fine for anyone caught smoking in public places on the smoker AND the business in question. Anyone can report someone smoking to the people running a business and if they do nothing the individual can report it to police in which case the business will face heavy penalties for not enforcing the law. What's done in England ?
England have commissioned "Anti-smoking Inspectors" who make random and unannounced visits to pubs, clubs etc. The business that allows the smoking to occur on the premises gets the brunt of it. The law has been well observed here, all pubs etc. providing "semi-enclosed" smoking areas outside.
In America smoking is banned in most public, enclosed places such as offices, restaurants, airplanes, and busses but it's acceptable outdoors and on your own property. The laws vary slightly in each state and Indian reservation, and casinos are often exempted.
In The Netherlands smoking will be banned in public places I believe June this year
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I'm very pleased that th UK has banned smoking in enclosed public spaces (and Wales banned it before England!). When I was a member of a chess club in the 1980's, the club met in a pub and people were allowed to smoke - as a child I would go home stinking of cigarette smoke. Yuk.
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Most if not all provinces in Canada have banned it. Seems everywhere it is being banned publicly and rightfully so. Second hand smoke kills.
I would like to see National American Action on this topic. There is no uniformity in America, and it always seems to be that either no one cares, or no one enforces the law. I would like a show of uniformity by my country in the likes of a ban of smoking in ALL public places, and hefty fines on the People AND the Business for allowing such behavior.
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Where I live, the smoking ban was instituted in 2002 in enclosed public spaces (bars, restaurants, the usual places). As a smoker, I griped about it, but complied with it. Last winter, I was on a business trip to another city where smoking was allowed in bars, and I got to tell you, all that cigarette smoke was hard to take! Even as a smoker, I support smoking bans like this. If I want a smoke that bad, I always go outside (even at home). It's not a big deal.
Best thing to happen in scotland ever..only independence will beat it.
Smoking ban has been in Ireland for some years now, best thing that ever happened although i think smoking should be banned at entrances/exits of public buildings. Great to see smokers having to stand outside in the rain all because of a silly dirty habit.
South Africa has had a smoking ban for about a decade i think. They also want to ban smoking in cars that have children under 12 yrs as passangers.
I welcome bans on smoking but do think there should be a space provided where smokers can enjoy smoking. For example at the back(outside) of a pub/club etc.
As a smoker, the only thing that bothers me about these laws are that there are no exemptions on bars and pubs. Granted, I don't often frequest a pub (in fact, never), but smoking and drinking tend to go hand in hand.
I can understand the whole smoking indoors issue, but I'll flip the day someone tells me I can't smoke in an outdoor, public place. A lot of these laws against smoking are becoming invasive and intrusive into people's personal lives. Sure, it's all good when it's about smoking, but what happens once laws can affect your actions in your own home or personal space? Do you really think it will end with just smoking bans?
Laws already affect people in their own homes. Govt is oppressive in nature, even the "good" ones. Every law made decreases freedoms, the more laws there are the less free people are. While many people are happy about this ban (myself included) I fear their is a "slippery slope" here and it wont be long before there are laws passed against "fat people" eating certain kinds of foods.....maybe no dessert for them and/or no seconds. Gannon has a legitimate point......whats next?
If you have a domestic servant in your home in South Africa you may not even smoke in your own house where he/she is!
I fired my domestic some time ago....
smoking should be illegal in whatever circumstance
They should actually just ban the shyte outright once and for all. F**k knows, it'll give my lungs the break it needs 'cause it doesn't seem like I'm gonna do it on my own...
On Jan 1 of 2008 Portugal has passed a law banning smoking in all public places. Are there other countries that have done this? I like this as it makes many of the places I frequent a lot more pleasant. Ofcourse there is a huge outcry from Portugal's roughly 2 million smokers.