Are Guns Evil?

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I picture him more as a balrog. You would hate everything if you were taking a dump of fire on a daily basis, too.

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wow, you actually see him as that?

Very interesting....for you he's huge and scary looking...

To me, he's just a little maggot...the only force of nature he could ever effect is to be accidentally squashed by a huge turd.

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Dag, Pulp.

You really impressed with this Balente troll...

Does he give you nightmares? LOL

Avatar of Pulpofeira

Better?

Avatar of Feufollet

erm, this is more like it

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Now nightmares are assured.

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I suppose, a nightmare if there were hundreds of them swarming you while you're sleeping....but this is just one. Just squash it. Or if you don't want to harm any "living creature" just flush it down the toilet. You're actually just sending it home - back to where it came from!

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I won't argue with you there, FrontyardProfessor

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Feufollet wrote:

You're not actually comparing a gun to a toaster are you? LOL

I stand by what I see. Guns are evil.

I see lots of things the human race doesn't see. I don't expect them to see what they are incapable of seeing. It's like expecting a blind person to see the stars.

I know what you all are talking about - that it is just a tool. I can understand how you come to that conclusion.

But you all don't know what I'm talking about. That's alright.

It doesn't prevent me from telling you what I see, even if you don't see it.

(I'm expecting that troll, balente, to come round any second now. Am setting my clock to countdown)

Are you seriously arguing that you have some special insight, and can see things which no-one else is aware of?  If so you are on rather shaky ground, because mental institutions are full of people like that.   All through history people have claimed to be able to see imps and daemons causing mischief in the world, but with out current understanding of nature there is no good reason to take them seriously.

If you wish to stand by your postition you are of course free to do so; but I will not attempt to argue with you, as you are clearly not an entirely rational person.

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Now now. No need to get nasty.

It is entirely possible that others see things you are incapable of seeing.

I see clearly the box from within which you speak. I am quite rational. I even grant  Wink that you stand on solid reasoning ground as it pertains to everything you can see in that box.

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Sorry, Feu.  I'm not being nasty, just pointing out to you how bizarre your claims appear to me.  I have no doubt that you can see all the same things that I can, I just doubt that you can see the things that you claim others cannot.  Until presented with some hard evidence (and I don't mean your own personal testimony), it is better to remain sceptical.

There are people who claim that aeroplanes fly because they are held up by angels.  Can you see this as well?  Would you accept that those people have a valid point of view, or are somewhat deluded?  How far do you think they would get if they tried to get a job as an aircraft designer? 

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But I'm not claiming planes are held up by angels, am I?

Hyperbolize much? You've taken the ball and are running with it in all direction..."imps" "daemons" "mental institutions" "angels" "aircrafts"...what will you come up with next?

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There are plenty of people like you round, Chairmaker.

Confined in that existential box you perceive as reality.

Your thoughts are very ordered, structured (when you're not running wild with hyperbole).

Anybody, who don't confine themselves in that perceived reality which is yours are quacks, mentally disturbed, delusional...

Sometimes, I think  this "reality" is a security blanket for "rationalists", much like those blankets kids huddle under when they are afraid of the dark. 

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evil does exist but only in the sense that something can happen that is wrong. So it's evil for a person to cause suffering, however, the person's behaviour is a matter of causality. Therefore whatever happens is that what was always going to happen and really no one is to blame. So evil is a thing that happens, but it doesn't have an existence in terms of anything being intrinsically evil. To understand everything is to hate nothing.

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Guns are inanimate objects and therefore can not be evil. Also, not all guns are made to kill people. Let's not lie to ourselves...

Avatar of Chicken_Monster

it's a dumb topic.

Avatar of gaereagdag

Guns would be evil if I had lots of them in my hands. 

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linuxblue1 wrote:

Guns would be evil if I had lots of them in my hands. 

I bet you're right!

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Chicken_Monster wrote:

it's a dumb topic.

Hi Cm! I'm not so sure. Perhaps it may be worth considering what is Evil? I guess a lot of people have a view on that and it's definitely a part of life in some way at least.