Bible Vs. Science

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Apology accepted.

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RonaldJosephCote wrote:

       Ok, let me explain. The timing of my post was not intentional,(directly after Battle). I can see where it would be an honest mistake. I was going to bed and just happen to look quickly before logging out. Einstein was/IS a long time good member and friend. He's also a good Catholic but he's not young. You can always find him defending Catholocism and does it much better than me. He was away from the site for quite a while, so I was just happy to see that he's feeling well enough to contribute. My apologies if my responce lead to any misunderstanding.

Don't even worry about it, Ronald. 17RileyC and I have had some conflicts in the past, so the conversation that happened between him  and me here was more based on that than your involvement.

I realized that I misunderstood your post. 

And, even if your post was responding to me, I didn't take it as anything more than light-hearted. (I'd much rather be called "Einstein" over "Mao Zedong" any day. ^-^ haha)


Pastuszek wrote:

Apology accepted.

 lol =D

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And I'd rather be compared to Mai Zedong than to Kaynight. Just sayin'...

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You're always watching, aren't you? ;-)

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Except for Travel's. He gone.

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The Bible really isn't about science or against science. Its about God's dealings with the Jews mostly ( Old Testament ) and Jesus coming to save the world. 😊

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Direct quote from answersingenesis.org. "The Bible says that earth was created before the stars and trees were created before the sun. However the big-bang view teaches the exact opposite."

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That's definitely out of correlation. The Earth couldn't have been created before the stars.

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I was the dude who created the Earth and stars. But I've said too much already...

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lets say that you have a bunch of points in space consisting of mass (galaxies). and you observe that these points of mass are moving away from each other with a factor of time(relatively equidistantly). the more time passes the greater the the distances between these points of mass(galaxies) become.  this means that in the past these points of mass were nearer together. and that the further you go back into the past the nearer these points of mass would have been with respect to each other. to the extent that at one point all these masses must have been completely joined. in the form of one super massive object consisting of all the mass in the known universe.
you know that the gravitational 'force between' two objects is proportional to the density of their mass and inversely proportional to the distance between them. this means that the closer two masses are to each other the greater their gravitational attraction will be to each other according to the law of the inverse square.
this means that the further we look into the past the greater the gravitational attraction would have been between these masses. therefore we know that the the force which is responsible for the increase in distence between these masses(galaxies) is greater than the gravitational force which would otherwise be drawing them together.(otherwise the universe would collapse under its own gravitational field)
the point in time attributed to the complete unity of all the mass in the universe. and the force which counteracts the gravitational attraction of its mass density. is  explained by a model called "the big bang"
in 1916 an experiment was done that demonstrated that a gravitational field actually "bends" the space which surrounds it. when a light beam from a distant star was observed to be curved by the suns gravitational field. this lead to a much more complex view of the so called "big bang" (which was not an explosion).. anyway, cosmology is a little more complex than most people give it credit for.. it better to study cosmology before you start devising your own views of it

and regardless of what triggered the big bang... we know it occurred

the problem with subjects like this is that it requires a huge amount of information to really understand any of it..... and im to buzzed

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its 'really' complicated buddy

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Just to complicate things. It is possible that God created the universe 6000 or so years ago. But he would have had to create it 'in progress. The dinosaurs never actually existed. Only their bones. The light from distant stars more than 6000 light years from us placed in motion, as if the universe were older.

How's that for mysterious ways?

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I think that God isn't real. Not sure about the Big Bang. And I haven't read the Bible yet,(but I plan to, for literature and a better understanding of the religion) so I don't understand your loyalty to God. But I just want to say Christians loyalty to God gets really crazy sometimes and I don't understand why you think that Christmas should only be celebrated by Christians when it was originally a pagan holiday. That was a long rambling rant. Sorry.
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I agree that christmas should not be celebrated.

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Christmas was originally a pagan holiday. Christians stole it. Jesus was born in September. It says so in the bible(I'm pretty sure because I don't think the author of Christmas Redemption lied about that).
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And bye bye I'm out of here before it becomes a shouting match.
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It does not say the month that Jesus was born.

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Christmas should be celebrated by everyone.I celebrate my birthday,and Jesus was certainly better than me.

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Christmas was first a Roman pagan festival. Christians imported it to take in the pagan masses as well. This was an attempt to convert many of the Roman pagans to Christianity. This failed and Christians then modified it and kept celebrating it. Christmas has been continually modified since then and I have one conclusion. Celebrating Christmas is disgracing Jesus with pagan worship.

Read more: http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

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Nonsense,celebrating Jesus birth is just fine.Only fringe Christian groups have a problem with celebrating Christmas,while billions enjoy this end of year holiday.